Depends on the extent of atrocities and how rapidly ISIS continues to spread. Turkey's inaction has been fairly spectacular.

CT: sorry, lost my article in previous post.

That's surely part of it. Naïveté of youth. Idealism.

Democrats aren't going to throw the election just to save some Kurds. And the Turks are probably glad to see them being wiped out, since they want to annex part of Turkey.

Oh if we could only replace all the energy coming from the middle east and tell them "Boys have at it". Too simplistic I know, but one fight just seems to lead to another.

I know, it's so convoluted it's ridiculous. Even if these guys had never united in their crusade for a Caliphate there would still be fighting going on all over with no end in sight. Makes me so glad to be here....

Yes. And to complete your sentence..and hopefully keep them there.

I over-estimated the number of civilians trapped in Kobane; apparently there are only about 700 elderly in town and another 5 or 6 thousand caught between Kobane and the Turkish border. One of the comments following the Reuters article I read says "Bring out the B-52's". Observers say ISIL now occupy 40% of town but Kurdish spokesman says more like 20%. I'll decide who to believe tomorrow after the next few reports. In Iraq they're within spitting distance of Baghdad Intl Airport at Abu Ghraib. The keyboard warriors agree Turkey is happy as hell to have someone else kill all the Kurdish fighters they can, and that Turkey can sit quietly for now and let it happen because they're our NATO allies and as soon as ISIL starts shelling over the border they can whistle and NATO has to come and help. Their leverage is we don't want them to jump to the Russian sphere of influence. I never really paid much attention to Turkey before but I don't think I like this Erdogan fellow. Here's my plan for the salvation of Kobane; find out where these old people are and make a lightning raid with Kurdish and US special forces (hell send UR and his gang of thugs too) and drag them back past a pre-determined line just like Rambo and bring out the B-52's. Get old Death From Above to bomb everything they think might be ISIL until the desert is a pane of glass, then they can paste any hard targets they have in Iraq the next day. That should slow them down. Then after a show of force like that maybe suggest the Turks stop being so difficult.

No kidding.

In Kobane today:




"In the meantime,Turkish army continued to send reinforcement to its border line with Kobane, but it showed no indication of any intention to up the ante"

They're certainly taking care not to dawdle in the street in the first clip. Thanks for posting that.

The presence of the Turkish army doesn't seem to bother IS. You have to wonder if the hidden objective is to flatten Kobane using whatever resources available plus what destruction they can provoke out of the coalition.

One comment on Reuters was something like "The Enemy of my Enemy of my Enemy of my Friend.

I'm probably going on the list for sharing this (if I'm not on it already)...

"British Islamist Abu Baraa in Support of ISIS: We Can Start Having Slave Girls Again"

They all mention that they is Muslim yet law abiding Muslims deny association with these nutters !! Oh dear !!

Wow. Have never actually watched one of those videos before. It does confirm my belief that a little religion is a dangerous thing. Somehow when the nonsense and division is conveyed in English it becomes even more surreal. It's little wonder the teenagers are getting sucked in when they are being fed pious misinformation like this.