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magnumpi Sep 10th 2014 1:12 pm

US step up war on ISIL
 
Barack Obama to authorise US air strikes against Isil in Syria - Telegraph

Obama speacial address tonight says US will step up the war on ISIL in Syria with air strikes only. Hope their aim is better than previous attempts !!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...time/15380239/

Shard Sep 10th 2014 4:36 pm

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About time.

Mikeypm Sep 10th 2014 4:57 pm

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Is it not ISIS?

magnumpi Sep 10th 2014 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 11400623)
Is it not ISIS?

It's both

Mikeypm Sep 11th 2014 2:03 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11400894)
It's both

Thanks for the clarification

JamesM Sep 11th 2014 2:27 am

Re: US step up war on ISIL
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11400497)
Barack Obama to authorise US air strikes against Isil in Syria - Telegraph

Obama speacial address tonight says US will step up the war on ISIL in Syria with air strikes only. Hope their aim is better than previous attempts !!

Obama prepared to order airstrikes in Syria against ISIL

Thanks.

I never watch the news or look at news websites.

I don't know what I'd do with out these news threads and opinions.

Greenhill Sep 11th 2014 2:31 am

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Oh, no it's not.


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11400894)
It's both


Oink Sep 11th 2014 2:40 am

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Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 11400623)
Is it not ISIS?

I thought it was IS now.

Still, whatever they're called they're rather fun.

confused_uk Sep 11th 2014 2:44 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11401192)
I thought it was IS now.

Still, whatever they're called they're rather fun.

They'll do a Prince soon & just change it to a sign

Shard Sep 11th 2014 3:24 am

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Originally Posted by confused_uk (Post 11401199)
They'll do a Prince soon & just change it to a sign

A crescent moon, perhaps?

magnumpi Sep 12th 2014 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by Greenhill (Post 11401185)
Oh, no it's not.

Both ISIS and ISIL are very similar, they are a group of so called Islamik murdering, soulless bastards, I'm sure we can agree on that ?

magnumpi Sep 13th 2014 12:06 am

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British journalist David Haynes next in line for a public murder/beheading

British Citizen DAVID CAWTHORNE HAYNES Identified as Next ISIS Hostage to be Beheaded | The Gateway Pundit

Good chance he already dead then ?

Shard Sep 13th 2014 12:22 am

Re: US step up war on ISIL
 
Why do you say that?

Sally Redux Sep 13th 2014 12:22 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11402356)
Both ISIS and ISIL are very similar, they are a group of so called Islamik murdering, soulless bastards, I'm sure we can agree on that ?

I think I know what you're trying to say but the punctuation is confusing.

magnumpi Sep 13th 2014 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11403572)
Why do you say that?

They Are All Dead Already! ISIS Staging Beheading Video Releases For Effect | Conspiracy Theories

Greenhill Sep 13th 2014 1:45 am

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They're all united under the same flag, I think.

(I tried to find a google image of the flag for you on the internet, but it looks like it's been removed.)


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11402356)
Both ISIS and ISIL are very similar, they are a group of so called Islamik murdering, soulless bastards, I'm sure we can agree on that ?


magnumpi Sep 13th 2014 1:51 am

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1 Attachment(s)
It's black like this.

A 20-year-old Scotswoman who abandoned her family to join the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria has rejected pleas from her parents to return home, saying she would only come back to raise the ISIS flag over Britain.

Shard Sep 13th 2014 1:54 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11403658)
It's black like this.

A female in the UK says she is going to fly this bullshit murdering b"""""ds flag at her home, that's sort of asking to be petrol bombed

It's very unnerving the number of UK kids that have become brainwashed with this crap. That's why burkas are the thin end of the wedge.

Greenhill Sep 13th 2014 1:59 am

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The one I was looking for is slightly different.

The text is in English and reads "We **** goats".


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11403658)
It's black like this.


magnumpi Sep 13th 2014 2:05 am

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1 Attachment(s)
H aha that sounds like the official one

Shard Sep 13th 2014 5:22 am

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On the topic of names...

'Islamic State' is a slur on our faith, say leading Muslims | World news | The Observer

Perhaps they could go for "Jihadia" it has a Middle Eastern country-name type ring to it, while retaining the country's founding ethos.

Greenhill Sep 13th 2014 11:02 am

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If he wasn't then, he is now...

"My name is David Cawthorne Haines. I would like to declare that I hold you, David Cameron, entirely responsible for my execution. You entered voluntarily into a coalition with the United States against the Islamic State, just as you're predecessor, Tony Blair, did. Following a trend amongst our British Prime Ministers who can't find the courage to say no to the Americans. Unfortunately, it is we, the British public, that will in the end pay the price for our Parliaments selfish decisions.

Executioner - This British man has to pay the price for your promise, Cameron, to arm the Peshmerga against the Islamic State. Ironically, he has spent a decade of his life serving under the same Royal Air Force that is responsible for delivering those arms. Your evil alliance with America which continues to strike the Muslims of Iraq and most recently bombed the Haditha Dam will only accelerate your destruction. And playing the role of the obedient lapdog, Cameron, will only drag you and your people into another bloody and unwinnable war.

[Execution]

[Executioner with a second British hostage]

Executioner - If you, Cameron, persist in fighting the Islamic State, then you, like your master Obama, will have the blood of your people on your hands."


Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11403563)
British journalist David Haynes next in line for a public murder/beheading

British Citizen DAVID CAWTHORNE HAYNES Identified as Next ISIS Hostage to be Beheaded | The Gateway Pundit

Good chance he already dead then ?


magnumpi Sep 15th 2014 12:14 am

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Also a second Brit being readied for a fourth be heading, this is not a good situation !!

Shard Sep 15th 2014 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11405436)
Also a second Brit being readied for a fourth be heading, this is not a good situation !!

I think the US/UK media are making a mistake it providing so much publicity to these beheadings. They are almost fuelling the fire, especially as the terrorists now include Western educated individuals.

The governments should impose some kind or reporting protocol/ban where by no photos are shown, and reporting is limited to very basic facts. Of course in the internet age all the gruesome details will be out for those who want to find it (although even that can be discouraged) but most people will not seek it out.

It's so barbaric, hard to believe people can inflict such horror on fellow humans in this time.

BristolUK Sep 15th 2014 4:50 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11405754)
I think the US/UK media are making a mistake it providing so much publicity to these beheadings.....The governments should impose some kind or reporting protocol/ban where by no photos are shown, and reporting is limited to very basic facts.

It's not really the same as when TV cuts away from idiots running on the football pitch though - not that you're saying it is, but there seems to be a similarity denying the oxygen of publicity as Thatch once said.

Can such things really be 'relegated' to just a few basic facts?

It's so barbaric, hard to believe people can inflict such horror on fellow humans in this time.
Is it a bad thing to be reminded of that when it happens? We might lose that if we just get a basic report.

magnumpi Sep 22nd 2014 2:23 am

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Canada now under threat from the ISIs murdering scum

Canada will not be scared off by ISIS threats | The London Free Press

JamesM Sep 22nd 2014 2:28 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11414119)
Canada now under threat from the ISIs murdering scum

Canada will not be scared off by ISIS threats | The London Free Press

You should make one of your "Canadian Life' videos about it so people are aware.

magnumpi Sep 22nd 2014 2:46 am

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They make all their own videos so no need

Shard Sep 22nd 2014 2:55 am

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The "religion of peace", as long as you believe, of course !

MillieF Sep 22nd 2014 6:38 am

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ISIS was for the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria as opposed to
ISIL being for the Islamic State for Iraq and the Levant - thinking of how far the Levant stretches is certainly eye opening.

It seems that they have been sending worldwide propaganda of a one eyed baby, the whole thing is utter tosh, but they are sending this as proof of the birth of the Muslim-Antichrist, and saying that this proves that we have now arrived at the Apocalypse, and it would appear it works. The thing is, those who have been to some of these parts could see why this sort of thing might work and attract many followers. If you really believe the end of the world is neigh you might throw you lot in with them if you had nothing left to lose. Quite what would make a Brit join their throng, or as the other day, a group who had planned to behead an Australian in public, and were arrested mid plan, join them either is beyond me.

I don't think even a bit of most of the horrors that these people are causing is even being reported as it is too graphic for words or pictures.

I cannot possibly imagine how this genie is ever going to go back into the bottle. Mass terror and brutality with religious zeal is beyond imagining.

Shard Sep 22nd 2014 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 11414381)
h them if you had nothing left to lose. Quite what would make a Brit join their throng, or as the other day, a group who had planned to behead an Australian in public, and were arrested mid plan, join them either is beyond me.

I cannot possibly imagine how this genie is ever going to go back into the bottle. Mass terror and brutality with religious zeal is beyond imagining.

It is brainwashing simple as that. Jim Jones, David Koresh achieved similar levels of mind control in a different sphere.

The leaders will have to be eliminated. Their followers will have to be deprogrammed or contained (Guantanamo anyone?). Tolerance of religious extremism (radical preachers for instance) will need to reduce.

The important thing is that the genie IS put back in the bottle. The idea of "demonstration killings" is abhorrent. It feels like we have time warped back to the Middle Ages.

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 22nd 2014 10:43 am

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Maybe the world just needs to try ignoring the middle east for a while, who knows maybe it will satisfy them to leave the rest of the world alone. Doesn't seem like anyone is going to be able to win over there and bring in peace and stable government's, so why not just leave them be?

Shard Sep 22nd 2014 10:52 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11414669)
Maybe the world just needs to try ignoring the middle east for a while, who knows maybe it will satisfy them to leave the rest of the world alone. Doesn't seem like anyone is going to be able to win over there and bring in peace and stable government's, so why not just leave them be?

Because they're developing a taste for cutting our heads off.

magnumpi Sep 22nd 2014 11:11 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11414688)
Because they're developing a taste for cutting our heads off.

Exactly, I saw a short video of the British cabbie who they are wanting to kill next, a very happy chubby guy who wanted to help the best he could.

These ISIS, ISIL scum are sick Mf and showing the world how sick they are may encorouge their distruction without too mutch sympathy from the ney Sayers of this world.

Shard Sep 22nd 2014 11:22 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11414711)
Exactly, I saw a short video of the British cabbie who they are wanting to kill next, a very happy chubby guy who wanted to help the best he could.

These ISIS, ISIL scum are sick Mf and showing the world how sick they are may encorouge their distruction without too mutch sympathy from the ney Sayers of this world.

Yes the cabbie has been headline news here for quite a few days now. He has been getting strong support from the British Muslim community (as he should).

There is some merit in the argument that showing the depravity (past or future) will better inform people of the threat.

Sally Redux Sep 22nd 2014 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11414725)
Yes the cabbie has been headline news here for quite a few days now. He has been getting strong support from the British Muslim community (as he should).

There is some merit in the argument that showing the depravity (past or future) will better inform people of the threat.

OK, so then we go in again, kill more people and keep the cycle going.

magnumpi Sep 22nd 2014 11:55 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11414748)
OK, so then we go in again, kill more people and keep the cycle going.

YUP, but this time, after we have killed enough to make them start at least thinking about their sickening actions, we stay there and help them to run the country, as its obvious that these savages cant control themselves or their own people.

Shard Sep 22nd 2014 12:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 11414748)
OK, so then we go in again, kill more people and keep the cycle going.

Something like that. Keep fighting the cancer.

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 22nd 2014 12:29 pm

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11414766)
YUP, but this time, after we have killed enough to make them start at least thinking about their sickening actions, we stay there and help them to run the country, as its obvious that these savages cant control themselves or their own people.

If there going to go in, needs to be a world issue with multiple countries, and we need to accept ground troops have to go in, and some will get killed. Not going to win anything with just planes and drones.

But will the countries involved voters put up with troops being killed again?

scrubbedexpat091 Sep 22nd 2014 3:01 pm

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U.S. launches airstrikes against Islamic State militants in Syria - National | Globalnews.ca


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