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Novocastrian Mar 2nd 2014 9:07 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by burks (Post 11155260)
But the question is.. will Putin stop at Crimea?
That, indeed, is the question. I think he will. It's not the encroachment of the west that's the main concern I suspect, but rather retaining access and control of the warm water port.

I can't believe Russia would be too pleased if its Baltic fleet were to be, in a possible future scenario, inside the EU.

burks Mar 2nd 2014 9:11 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11155265)
That, indeed, is the question. I think he will. It's not the encroachment of the west that's the main concern I suspect, but rather retaining access and control of the warm water port.

I can't believe Russia would be too pleased if its Baltic fleet were to be, in a possible future scenario, inside the EU.
I'm just waiting for that one 'special' soldier to accidentally fire his weapon.. leading to full scale war!

Novocastrian Mar 2nd 2014 9:15 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by burks (Post 11155272)
I'm just waiting for that one 'special' soldier to accidentally fire his weapon.. leading to full scale war!
Archduke Ferdinand centennial anniversary time?

burks Mar 2nd 2014 9:26 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11155276)
Archduke Ferdinand centennial anniversary time?
Why not commemorate the war to end all wars.. with a war. It's probably poetic to Putin

Yorkiechef Mar 2nd 2014 9:36 am
Re: Ukraine
 
And I thought Lithuania was part of the EU and so is Poland, therefore the Baltic fleet is already enclosed by the EU. I don't see St. Petersburg joining the EU in a hurry.

caretaker Mar 2nd 2014 9:37 am
Re: Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by burks (Post 11155272)
I'm just waiting for that one 'special' soldier to accidentally fire his weapon.. leading to full scale war!
Tick, tock. My mother and her family came from a village near Mariupol.

Novocastrian Mar 2nd 2014 9:41 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11155289)
And I thought Lithuania was part of the EU and so is Poland, therefore the Baltic fleet is already enclosed by the EU. I don't see St. Petersburg joining the EU in a hurry.
Ahem. Sorry for the brain-cramp. I meant Black Sea fleet. (As well you know).

Yorkiechef Mar 2nd 2014 9:47 am
Re: Ukraine
 
And I for a moment thought you were talking of Russia taking Lithuania and belarus to ensure the land route to the ports.

Yorkiechef Mar 2nd 2014 9:50 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Anything is possible right now. I'm sure Putin would say he reserved the right to do anything to protect Russian interests....I've heard that before!

Oink Mar 2nd 2014 10:17 am
Re: Ukraine
 
I love all the finger wagging and tut-tutting from the Americans, while they’ve invaded Panama, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and intervened in Libya. Now, if Canada or Mexico decided to align with Russia and some sort of Eurasian coalition, both economically and militarily, I think the Yanks wouldn’t bat an eyelid before they rolled in. Hypocrites to their last bad breath.

Shard Mar 2nd 2014 10:20 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11155326)
I love all the finger wagging and tut-tutting from the Americans, while they’ve invaded Panama, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and intervened in Libya. Now, if Canada or Mexico decided to align with Russia and some sort of Eurasian coalition, both economically and militarily, I think the Yanks wouldn’t bat an eyelid before they rolled in. Hypocrites to their last bad breath.
Quite. Watched a clip of Kerry and thought the bloody cheek.

Jingsamichty Mar 2nd 2014 10:29 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11155326)
I love all the finger wagging and tut-tutting from the Americans, while they’ve invaded Panama, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and intervened in Libya. Now, if Canada or Mexico decided to align with Russia and some sort of Eurasian coalition, both economically and militarily, I think the Yanks wouldn’t bat an eyelid before they rolled in. Hypocrites to their last bad breath.
Pretty much all these US interventions have occurred after the USSR ceased to be a power that caused the USA to think twice before acting.

Perhaps, in the big picture, it might be better for the world as a whole if Russia again becomes a power that can stop Uncle Sam from throwing its weight around unchecked.

caretaker Mar 2nd 2014 10:42 am
Re: Ukraine
 
[Reminds self to see if there's a free e-book for The Once and Future King]

burks Mar 2nd 2014 11:36 am
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Yorkiechef (Post 11155289)
And I thought Lithuania was part of the EU and so is Poland, therefore the Baltic fleet is already enclosed by the EU. I don't see St. Petersburg joining the EU in a hurry.
Isn't the Baltic Fleet in Kaliningrad?

Gozit Mar 2nd 2014 2:39 pm
Re: Ukraine
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11155326)
I love all the finger wagging and tut-tutting from the Americans, while they’ve invaded Panama, Grenada, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan and intervened in Libya. Now, if Canada or Mexico decided to align with Russia and some sort of Eurasian coalition, both economically and militarily, I think the Yanks wouldn’t bat an eyelid before they rolled in. Hypocrites to their last bad breath.
+1.


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