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Shard Apr 23rd 2015 6:21 pm

UK Election Poll
 
At the request of the Right Honourable Rivington Pike, all UK expats are invited to cast their ballot for the upcoming national election. Please note that this is an official poll and that all votes will be transmitted to the electoral commission and applied accordingly. Votes are anonymous.

Oops - polling question is "who do you support" not "who will win". :unsure:
You just cannot get the staff these days! ;)

rivingtonpike Apr 23rd 2015 6:53 pm

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11627211)
At the request of the Right Honourable Rivington Pike, all UK expats are invited to cast their ballot for the upcoming national election. Please note that this is an official poll and that all votes will be transmitted to the electoral commission and applied accordingly. Votes are anonymous.

Oops - polling question is "who do you support" not "who will win". :unsure:
You just cannot get the staff these days! ;)

Yay! How and where do we vote? And can we change our minds and vote again?

mikelincs Apr 23rd 2015 7:06 pm

Re: UK Election Poll
 
Where's the 'They're all a load of wa**ers, none of the above' category?

scootb Apr 23rd 2015 7:49 pm

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11627240)
Where's the 'They're all a load of wa**ers, none of the above' category?


What he said ^^^

scrubbedexpat133 Apr 23rd 2015 11:24 pm

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Im voting for Plaid Subaru.......Imprezas for all!!! :D

MikeUK Apr 23rd 2015 11:53 pm

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Should have

Tactical voting; hung parliament 'cus not can be trusted on their own

Shard Apr 24th 2015 5:49 am

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Well, this is a good start. Turn out ratio (Day 1) 7% :(

Jericho79 Apr 24th 2015 5:57 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 
On a forum of immigrants, how the f*** can UKIP be winning this poll so far?

Shard Apr 24th 2015 6:03 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by Jericho79 (Post 11627841)
On a forum of immigrants, how the f*** can UKIP be winning this poll so far?

They are the ones who left because "the country's going to the dogs".

withabix Apr 24th 2015 6:38 am

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There may a number of differences between who will win, who should, who would you vote for and if there are enough 'others' to stop the SNP putting Wallace in to power.

Personally I think the Labour voters are deluded if they think they should be in Government. We don't need another catastrophy in the UK.

Will the last person to leave the UK please turn out the lights (as The Sun once said).

Shard Apr 24th 2015 6:58 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 11627913)
There may a number of differences between who will win, who should, who would you vote for and if there are enough 'others' to stop the SNP putting Wallace in to power.

Personally I think the Labour voters are deluded if they think they should be in Government. We don't need another catastrophy in the UK.

Will the last person to leave the UK please turn out the lights (as The Sun once said).

Agree, but there's so much tribalism in politics. And in UK politics there's too much of an aversion to coalition government, so some people vote with the herd.

Jericho79 Apr 24th 2015 7:14 am

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Originally Posted by withabix (Post 11627913)

Personally I think the Labour voters are deluded if they think they should be in Govern

Lets be honest. Whatever the outcome, we're going to end up with more of the same.

Shard Apr 24th 2015 7:21 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 
Crikey, after watching the dismal main party commercials, this one from the Greens is quite entertaining!


not2old Apr 24th 2015 7:34 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 
based on the poll up top, how can anyone vote that the UKIP will win the election [or support as revised]? - absolute bonkers IMO

My guess is less than 10 seats in total for the UKIP. Surely they are just another flash in the pan like the BNP was?

andrewjohn Apr 24th 2015 8:58 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 
Please don't leave "we love you" we are a "Family of Nations" ..... OK

Then ......
BOOM !!!!! Scots running Westminster HOW DARE THEY !!!!! No way ....Tell them to Get tae fck....
OK Then......!!!!!

MarkG Apr 24th 2015 11:31 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by Jericho79 (Post 11627841)
On a forum of immigrants, how the f*** can UKIP be winning this poll so far?

If I remember correctly, the UKIP want an Australian-style points system and no open borders to the EU. Which is pretty much what we had to go through to get to Canada.

Can't see any chance of them winning, but hopefully they'll get enough seats to ensure that Cameron doesn't get a majority.

Jericho79 Apr 24th 2015 1:00 pm

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 11628248)
If I remember correctly, the UKIP want an Australian-style points system and no open borders to the EU. Which is pretty much what we had to go through to get to Canada.

Can't see any chance of them winning, but hopefully they'll get enough seats to ensure that Cameron doesn't get a majority.

Hmm. They also want to abolish anti discrimination legislation, and move away from the European Court of Human Rights. They are against gay marriage, and agree with stopping foreign aid to third world countries.

The facts are, and I repeat, the facts, that immigrants are net contributors to the UK economy. Yes, there are bad apples, but they will continue under any type of immigration system. People will always find a way to abuse the system. But that is not really the problem. It's preying on peoples fears- people who are generally not smart enough to see that it is a charade.

What UKIP has failed to acknowledge is that the growing income equality, which is not caused by immigration. Not surprising though, as Farrage is an ex city banker. He knows where his bread is buttered. UKIP voters are largely poorly educated and low income workers. Curbs to immigration will do nothing to improve their situation.

The way to deal with growing immigration is to continue to invest in public services, new housing, etc... much like Canada/Australia. The points system comment is a red herring. Most immigrants come to the country to work, not to scrounge, evidenced by the aforementioned fact that they make a net contribution to the economy.

jimf Apr 25th 2015 2:42 am

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Originally Posted by andrewjohn (Post 11628088)
Please don't leave "we love you" we are a "Family of Nations" ..... OK

Then ......
BOOM !!!!! Scots running Westminster HOW DARE THEY !!!!! No way ....Tell them to Get tae fck....
OK Then......!!!!!

Scottish MPs have been prominent in many UK governments in the past so that is nothing new.

jimf Apr 25th 2015 3:15 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by Jericho79 (Post 11628289)
Hmm. They also want to abolish anti discrimination legislation, and move away from the European Court of Human Rights. They are against gay marriage, and agree with stopping foreign aid to third world countries.

The facts are, and I repeat, the facts, that immigrants are net contributors to the UK economy. Yes, there are bad apples, but they will continue under any type of immigration system. People will always find a way to abuse the system. But that is not really the problem. It's preying on peoples fears- people who are generally not smart enough to see that it is a charade.

What UKIP has failed to acknowledge is that the growing income equality, which is not caused by immigration. Not surprising though, as Farrage is an ex city banker. He knows where his bread is buttered. UKIP voters are largely poorly educated and low income workers. Curbs to immigration will do nothing to improve their situation.

The way to deal with growing immigration is to continue to invest in public services, new housing, etc... much like Canada/Australia. The points system comment is a red herring. Most immigrants come to the country to work, not to scrounge, evidenced by the aforementioned fact that they make a net contribution to the economy.

The net contribution claim is rather dubious. It depends which figures you choose to believe. A significant drain is much more likely.

Migration Watch UK: News: Comment on CReAM’s revised report 'The Fiscal Effects of Immigration to the UK'

Clearly UKIP has risen due to the failure of the other main parties to manage immigration adequately. It does appear the choice is remain within the EU and accept no controls on immigration within the EU or leave the EU and control immigration from those countries.

mikelincs Apr 25th 2015 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11628623)
The net contribution claim is rather dubious. It depends which figures you choose to believe. A significant drain is much more likely.

Migration Watch UK: News: Comment on CReAM’s revised report 'The Fiscal Effects of Immigration to the UK'

Clearly UKIP has risen due to the failure of the other main parties to manage immigration adequately. It does appear the choice is remain within the EU and accept no controls on immigration within the EU or leave the EU and control immigration from those countries.

UKIP stand no chance of getting enough seats to influence any of the other parties, the best they can hope for is about 8.

Jericho79 Apr 25th 2015 3:32 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11628623)
The net contribution claim is rather dubious. It depends which figures you choose to believe. A significant drain is much more likely.

Migration Watch UK: News: Comment on CReAM’s revised report 'The Fiscal Effects of Immigration to the UK'

Clearly UKIP has risen due to the failure of the other main parties to manage immigration adequately. It does appear the choice is remain within the EU and accept no controls on immigration within the EU or leave the EU and control immigration from those countries.

Your source is migration watch?

Let me see if I can find contrasting information from "whyimmigrationissogood.com"

:sarcasm:

jimf Apr 25th 2015 4:41 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 11628628)
UKIP stand no chance of getting enough seats to influence any of the other parties, the best they can hope for is about 8.

It's extremely unlikely they would get as many as 8. 1, 2 or 3 maybe.

jimf Apr 25th 2015 4:43 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by Jericho79 (Post 11628638)
Your source is migration watch?

Let me see if I can find contrasting information from "whyimmigrationissogood.com"

:sarcasm:

Apparently the Greens want an open border, and to ban rabbit hutches...

rivingtonpike Apr 25th 2015 4:52 am

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Ban rabbit hutches? Bloody hell, that's tantermount to anarchy!!!

Shard Apr 25th 2015 5:41 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11628623)
The net contribution claim is rather dubious. It depends which figures you choose to believe. A significant drain is much more likely.

Migration Watch UK: News: Comment on CReAM’s revised report 'The Fiscal Effects of Immigration to the UK'

Clearly UKIP has risen due to the failure of the other main parties to manage immigration adequately. It does appear the choice is remain within the EU and accept no controls on immigration within the EU or leave the EU and control immigration from those countries.

Yes. The UK is a very attractive economically, and even in work, there is a huge pull on benefits (in-work) benefits, definite wage compression at the lower end, and pressure on housing/schools and healthcare. We might be a victim of our own success.

not2old Apr 26th 2015 9:30 pm

Re: UK Election Poll
 
back to the OP, are we that close to reality?

Election 2015 poll tracker - BBC News

Shard Apr 26th 2015 10:15 pm

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11630068)
back to the OP, are we that close to reality?

Election 2015 poll tracker - BBC News

Nope. Looks like some Labour supporters have become a bit more 'nationalist' (SNP and UKIP) since moving to the Great White North.

Good link though. :thumbup: Very consistent polling isn't it.

Oakvillian Apr 27th 2015 4:46 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by andrewjohn (Post 11628088)
Please don't leave "we love you" we are a "Family of Nations" ..... OK

Then ......
BOOM !!!!! Scots running Westminster HOW DARE THEY !!!!! No way ....Tell them to Get tae fck....
OK Then......!!!!!

It would be very unlikely, and because of the division of seats between the four nations probably not even possible, for any of the Separatist parties (SNP, PC, SDLP, SF) in Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland to form a Westminster government, in much the same way as the Bloc Quebecois would be unlikely to form an Ottawa government. But there's no reason at all why such parties should not form part of a coalition, or at least lend support to a minority government in a less formal way. The Ulster Unionist parties did so in previous Conservative administrations (for example in the five or six months before the 1997 election after successive by-election losses had removed a slim majority), and the SDLP have traditionally voted with the government in a Labour-led administration (although without looking it up I couldn't say whether they've ever actually propped up a minority by doing so).

But, and it's an important but, there's a strong history of MPs from Scotland and Wales leading UK governments. Lloyd George, Douglas-Home, MacDonald, Blair, Brown... David Lloyd George famously spoke English as a second language (to Welsh). I also didn't know until I saw it on a list of prime ministers' birthplaces just now that Andrew Bonar Law was from New Brunswick :)

rivingtonpike May 2nd 2015 1:53 pm

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I heard Ed Milliband speaking on Question Time last night. Hasn't he got a weird voice! Is it adenoids?

Shard May 2nd 2015 5:28 pm

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Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11635266)
I heard Ed Milliband speaking on Question Time last night. Hasn't he got a weird voice! Is it adenoids?

Weird voice, weird everything. Pleased Labour stuck with him though, otherwise they might get back in power.

rivingtonpike May 2nd 2015 5:39 pm

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:lol:

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11635336)
Weird voice, weird everything. Pleased Labour stuck with him though, otherwise they might get back in power.

:lol::rofl:

mdizzle May 3rd 2015 1:43 am

Re: UK Election Poll
 

Originally Posted by rivingtonpike (Post 11635266)
I heard Ed Milliband speaking on Question Time last night. Hasn't he got a weird voice! Is it adenoids?

That thing he does where he asks someone their name and then repeatedly uses it in his answers is bizarre. The way he peers into the camera is also a bit unnerving.

Shard May 3rd 2015 1:58 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11635629)
That thing he does where he asks someone their name and then repeatedly uses it in his answers is bizarre. The way he peers into the camera is also a bit unnerving.

That habit came across as particularly synthetic. I thought Clegg came across the best of the three (although he did overuse the word 'fair' quite a bit).

withabix May 3rd 2015 2:07 am

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Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 11635629)
That thing he does where he asks someone their name and then repeatedly uses it in his answers is bizarre. The way he peers into the camera is also a bit unnerving.

I like it when people still call him David....:rofl:

He always looks so offended, being the lesser of the two Millipedes.

He is after all the stooge of the Unions, who installed him as the leader that the rest of the Labour membership didn't want.

The Unions like him because he hasn't actually lived in the real world with ordinary people so he believes everything that his Union masters tell him is the truth.

He is of course as far from working class as you can possibly be, paying £1.9 million cash towards his £2.3 million house, despite never having done a day's work in his life. He's reportedly worth £5 million - even more than Cameron!

jimf May 3rd 2015 3:00 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11635638)
That habit came across as particularly synthetic. I thought Clegg came across the best of the three (although he did overuse the word 'fair' quite a bit).

I think Clegg has done quite well over the last few weeks. Hopefully the majority of sitting LD MPs will survive but it looks a bit unlikely.

Rosie Lee May 3rd 2015 3:32 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11635692)
I think Clegg has done quite well over the last few weeks. Hopefully the majority of sitting LD MPs will survive but it looks a bit unlikely.

In the BBC's poll of polls, LD only had 9%, UKIP had 13%!!! :ohmy:

caretaker May 3rd 2015 3:54 pm

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11635692)
I think Clegg has done quite well over the last few weeks. Hopefully the majority of sitting LD MPs will survive but it looks a bit unlikely.

I just saw the last 20 min of the replay of Question Time on CPAC and he's a good speaker but I was glad when it was over.
The fellow on the left who looks asleep giving him a hard time was the best part.

not2old May 3rd 2015 9:42 pm

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if the BBC polls are on the money, then its going to be an interesting parliament

Election 2015 poll tracker - BBC News

mikelincs May 3rd 2015 10:49 pm

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Originally Posted by not2old (Post 11636251)
if the BBC polls are on the money, then its going to be an interesting parliament

Election 2015 poll tracker - BBC News

It seems to be that they are all predicting a hung parliament, with most suggesting that the biggest single party might well struggle to even get a majority with the support of other parties. SNP may well hold the most important position, if they do get between 45 and 50 seats as seems likely they will have a lot of power. I've even seen it postulated that the biggest single party might well form a minority govenment, which would immediately get rid of any thoughts of an EU referendum as the conservatives would not get sufficiwnt votes to pass a bill to set one up.

not2old May 3rd 2015 11:17 pm

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imagine labour winning this election?


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