Gozit

Sorry but that made no sense. I am not a refugee that came to Canada, I was born here for cripes sakes! It (will say) says so in both my passports! And tbh I really don't think in Schnooks' context it was 'being friendly' ... You could tell by the IOs tone of voice if they were being friendly or still in interrogation mode. Besides, I thought you weren't allowed to be friendly? At least your CBP counterparts aren't that's for sure

And having dual nationality has nothing to do with refugee status. A person could come to Canada on refugee, get PR and citizenship then go home for a visit I guess if they made a good life for themselves in Canada and can afford to do so. I wouldn't see anything wrong with that. And they would probably travel on their home country's passport as their Canadian one would probably require a visa, or they are required by law to enter on that passport.

Former Lancastrian

Bingo. Now you know why we ask where have you been etc. Im sure the middle aged gent arriving from Thailand won't volunteer that he went for sex tourism.

Canadian citizens and permanent residents of Canada who engage in any of these prohibited sexual activities with a child in a foreign country can also be charged and prosecuted in Canada for these child sex tourism offences where they have not been convicted of these offences in the foreign country.

Canada’s Criminal Code specifically prohibits child sex tourism since May 26, 1997. Many other countries have passed similar child sex tourism laws.

Gozit

Right but what if it isn't child sex tourism. What if I want to go to Brazil to go to a brothel? To have consensual sex (for money) with a woman of age in a brothel. (I'm not that low, wouldn't actually do that ) That is legal in Brazil. Why is it right that I can come back to Canada and be prosecuted for it?

Former Lancastrian

The vast majority of refugees are claiming that they face danger or persecution in the country they are claiming refugee status from. So if they fear for their lives etc from that country then WTF are they travelling back to it for if in fear. If they are going back then why do they need Canada's protection?
Try thinking like you are an IO and see if you perceive things differently when doing that job. Ask yourself what would i be looking for or might find out of place.
Do you believe everything anyone tells you and if not then why should I.

Gozit

Yes, but when they apply for asylum they are applying for a safe haven, a place they can be safe in and call home. When they go visit their country of origin, whilst having Canadian citizenship they know they will be able to return to Canada and be safe. On the contrary though, there are some countries where you just can't go back and visit, North Korea comes to mind there... But if someone from Palestine applied for asylum et al and became Canadian and decided to go visit their family in Judea and Samaria, I would hazard that they would be able to visit and get back to Canada.

Sally Redux

I doubt the gent would volunteer that info under questioning either.
That does seem odd.

Looks like prostitution is legal in both countries but brothels are not. Actually I'm not sure about the brothel situation in Canada.

http://prostitution.procon.org/view....ourceID=000772

beckiwoo

Heres the proof:

Pregnant Canadian allegedly used rubber belly carrying drugs

Is there any chance I could go one day without seeing the term 'dual nationality' On here. It's just luck of the draw at the end of the day. Unfortunately it doesn't make you any more special

Gozit

No

But it would also be nice if every thread revolving around immigration didn't end up about FL and his job, too

Dashie

But it is his job... He has an enormous amount of knowledge and is a huge help to people on here. His advice and experience are a lot more useful than the guesswork and opinion that often appear on here.

And no, dual or even multiple nationality doesn't make you any more special on here. Lots of us have it, and mostly one of them is British

Gozit

Yes I agree he has helped people on here a lot, including meself once or twice. But when there is general banter about immigration laws, its just that, banter. We KNOW that we can't change it, we can either suck it up and deal with it, or not travel. Its that simple. Border control is one of those necessary evils that everybody hates going through but everyone knows its needed.

General 'banter' threads like this one, need not be turned round to be about him and his job.
I agree

Dashie

Lots of things would be better off not on this forum. To my mind the obvious being giving advice on things someone knows nothing about. That happens an awful lot more than FL talking about his job, which may of us actually find interesting and informative, it helps make sense of some of the seemingly non-sensical things they do.

Former Lancastrian

One of these days you might learn something. The whole point of claiming refugee status is you are either in fear of your life or being persecuted in that country and you are seeking safe haven. If you go back to that country for whatever reason then its obvious that you now feel safe enough to go back and therefore do not need Canada's or any other countries protection.
There are two ways that refugee protection can be removed:

A person can cease to hold their refugee status (A108) if, for example, they voluntarily reavail themself of the protection of their country of nationality or obtain protection from another country (citizenship).
A person can have their refugee status vacated (A109) if they obtained that status by directly or indirectly misrepresenting or withholding material facts relating to a relevant matter.

BTW its not all about me as you suggest. If posting in the Immigration section then perhaps you might see me reply to certain threads either helping or trying to educate people as opposed to making it about me.
As for dual nationality answer this question

A person has dual nationality say Canada and Egypt. They live in Egypt and commit a crime. Should they be treated as Egyptian citizens or Canadian citizens especially if sentenced to jail. Should it also make a difference if they lived in Canada but entered Egypt on their Egyptian passport. Should they do the jail time in Egypt or Canada?

Jerseygirl

Not nice. The same has been said by some about a certain young man and Malta.

Sally Redux

Regimes can change though, do they then lose that refugee status?

Former Lancastrian

IRPA allows for loss of permanent residence status if refugee protection ceases under A108(1)(a) to (d) and a finding of inadmissibility under A40.1. There is no loss of permanent residence status if refugee protection is removed because of a change in country conditions [A108(1)(e)].