Yes but you have to realise that we, the collective BE armchair detective authority, solved the Oscar Pistorius case within 24 hours of it occurring.

I suppose when that trial begins on the 19th Aug South Africa will be watching that like the US did the OJ Simpson trial. If he gets away with it there's always a chance some self-styled vigilante will put a ball through his head on general principal, guns being common as in the states.

Chances are that the result of an inquiry will not be shared with the general public :@(

It does surprise me that any one would even think about committing a crime in Toronto with the OK Coral cops on duty

CCTV footage, you see Sammy fall in this one but without the sound of the gun shots it's hard to tell when:

Now he's "Sammy"? It may have been wrong to make him look like a colander and then electrify him but, still, he was some unknown nutter with a knife in a public place; we don't need to make him sound cuddly either.

That's just silly.

The problem with Sam is that it rhymes with tram, as in, for example: The cops turned Sam into an electrified colander on the tram. Bam, Bam, Bam. Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam, Bam. Bam. ZZZZZZZZ. Medical exam.

It is really hard to imagine what happened earlier, known information, what happened out of sight, what was said (other than put the knife down), what threat there could be to justify the action.

There's a counter on one video so it seems no editing.

What's not clear is how many officers fired? If only one, why only one? If there was danger, surely at least one reacts to it.

There have been three videos now. It's hard to tell, but nobody seems to be taking a lead. Nobody gestures to the door near the back of the bus, no-one saying "get back, nothing to see here folks."

One thing that seems sure is that whatever the outcome there's going to be some retraining done.

22 police witnesses, 1 subject officer (who has been suspended).

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle13481432/

Just seen this again on CBC news from 2 angles at the same time. The first 3 rounds appear to hit the lad and he dropped down onto the floor of the trolley car, he was motionless on the floor of the trolley during the pause, then you see his body jolt as the rest of the bullets enter his body.

Seriously guys, it don't look good for that cop !

The cop has been charged today with 2nd degree Murder.

http://www.brandonsun.com/national/b...151.html?thx=y

And he'll be found not guilty.

The purpose of the police is to protect the public, so someone was advancing on him with a knife and he shot him to protect himself and to protect the public.

Because he had his pistol in his hand and there's no such thing as "shooting to wound", you only fire to stop someone. Firearms are lethal, shoot someone to wound them, odds are they can still kill you and they just die from blood loss later on. You shoot to incapacitate, which is generally a lethal injury.

I keep seeing things in the press that make no sense "he only had a knife". ONLY? Plenty of people have been killed with pen knives and no doubt the cop had been made aware of that in training. "They could have tackled him" only at significant risk and the officer who shot him was concentrating on the threat and was likely unaware of where the other officers were in relation to him.

"He was contained" - he was contained because there was an officer in the doorway, he advanced on the officer and the officer has an obligation to prevent the escape of someone who was clearly armed and menacing.

"Why shoot him nine times?" We don't know how many shots connected, perhaps the first three were peripheral hits and the officer still thought he was a threat - the fact they did then use a taser indicated he was still moving. Lot of chairborne commandos in the press. Shooting at someone through a doorway, at an angle, under stress, at night is not the same as being on a target range. (Note police Glocks are also fitted with heavy trigger pulls to prevent accidental discharges).

"Should have used the taser first." well maybe, but once again, a taser fires darts and it was through a doorway. The prudent choice may have been to pull a pistol. Regardless, there is a difference between making a choice in a stressful situation and doing something illegal. Was it illegal? I doubt it.

The police are not employed to be sandbags.

But you can't be inside the mind of that cop, he didn't have the choice of calm reflection from his chair in front of his TV/computer from multiple camera angles.

Nope, u right, I am not trained nor was I in that position, but does he (the cop) not have training in this. The training given to this cop is the very best, so he can carry a firearm and protect the public. Other cops are trained to drive fast, I can't drive as fast as a cop because I am not trained. And so on !!!

So he is the only cop amonst 20+ on scene who panicked and shot the bad guy 9 times.?

And your statement of the boy advancing knife in hand is wrong, he never got off the trolley. In fact, he never harmed any of the passengers either ?

All I have left to say is that the cop police are pressing for 2nd degree murder. Period.

Magnumpi I thought you'd already read this story. Yes, he is the only cop who shot anybody there that night, didn't you know that? The statement of the boy advancing knife in hand refers to events that happened on the 'trolley', and no, he didn't harm any of the passengers. We all knew that stuff on day 1.. Whether the policeman is convicted or not remains to be seen, if he is it will be despite the best defence his union can provide, and we'll find out in due course.