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Old Jul 29th 2013 | 6:07 am
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9 shots were fired, but how many hit the lad?
It's very difficult to hit someone when shooting from a handgun, even at close range, so this may explain the number of shots being heard.

After what happened in London recently with knife wielding lunatics, personally, I cannot blame the police for opting to be safe rather than sorry.
 
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Hidden gun? Seems unlikely.
Doubt that, I'm sure the cops would have shown the gun if so and advised the press.
 
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That's why I can't watch CNN, endless pointless speculation ad infinitum. Not part of my cable package thank goodness. Six evenly spaced rounds, just like on the range, with only a sound track to go by, CNN would play it all day if this happened in New York. I can guess what might of happened, (and I may even be right), but that would be just like CNN. I think my sister still believes CNN started the first Gulf War.
 
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9 shots were fired, but how many hit the lad?
It's very difficult to hit someone when shooting from a handgun, even at close range, so this may explain the number of shots being heard.

After what happened in London recently with knife wielding lunatics, personally, I cannot blame the police for opting to be safe rather than sorry.
From that distance it's easy to hit a person, it's only a Glock 9mm, I shot 50 rounds while in Texas and every one hit target. And as for warning shots, police try to refrain from firing off warning shots as they can go astray.
 
Old Jul 29th 2013 | 6:14 am
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From that distance it's easy to hit a person, it's only a Glock 9mm, I shot 50 rounds while in Texas and every one hit target. And as for warning shots, police try to refrain from firing off warning shots as they can go astray.
Well done, although I maintain that it isn't easy. However, hitting a target in practice is a lot different to hitting a target in the heat of the moment, with nerves, adrenaline, etc etc.
How many policemen actually fire their weapon more than once a year/decade/career? Not many, I suspect.
 
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Well done, although I maintain that it isn't easy. However, hitting a target in practice is a lot different to hitting a target in the heat of the moment, with nerves, adrenaline, etc etc.
How many policemen actually fire their weapon more than once a year/decade/career? Not many, I suspect.
Good point, but

Why 3 shots, pause, then 6 shots, and if you look at the video, the gun is lower for the 6 shots and higher for the 3.

What danger was the guy to the cops after the 3 shots dropped him ?
 
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Imagine this scenario, unstable youth on bus exposes self to passengers then brandishes knife, police respond. All other passengers are discharged and one officer climbs in to confront suspect, gun drawn. Suspect attacks officer, who responds by firing weapon 3 times, hitting suspect wherever, (no footage, remember). Suspect throws self behind seat, denying the officer a view of his hands, possibly still moving, clothing possibly still undone from exposing self to passengers, so the officer, possibly demanding the suspect show his hands, shoots him again and again. I wouldn't be shocked to hear the body has 9 holes in it from all angles. It's a guess, but at this stage they're all guesses. CNN would play that scenario.
 
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They did say he died from multiple gun shot wounds. Mabe they used him for Tazer practise afterwards ?
 
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Never get off the boat.
Huh ?
 
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Huh ?
A reference to a scene in Apocalypse Now, because after being shot and tasered the suspect was given CPR by the officers. You'd have to know the movie to get it.
 
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A reference to a scene in Apocalypse Now, because after being shot and tasered the suspect was given CPR by the officers. You'd have to know the movie to get it.
Ohh, :@). they gave him CPR, oh gee, what they thinking there then.
 
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Suicide by cop isn't it? When asked to put the weapon down by a number of armed officers only someone that wants to die doesn't do so.

The number of shots is problematic and, unless the shooter was a very poor shot, (in which case, why shoot) I cannot understand why so many shots were required.
 
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Suicide by cop isn't it? When asked to put the weapon down by a number of armed officers only someone that wants to die doesn't do so.

The number of shots is problematic and, unless the shooter was a very poor shot, (in which case, why shoot) I cannot understand why so many shots were required.
That's 100% a nail on the head statement. Why 3 shots, then 6 ?
 
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Could have been a bizarre sequence of muscle spasms, giving the appearance he was attacking with his knife, reaching for a gun or setting off a bomb or something.

Joking aside, the word "overkill" was invented for events such as this.

Originally Posted by magnumpi
That's 100% a nail on the head statement. Why 3 shots, then 6 ?
 


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