Are top loading washers really this useless?
#31
Top loaders are popular in the US , but not in other countries. As is normal in the US, the only thing that's important to the manufacturer is cost and the top loaders are much cheaper to make in various ways. Many tests have shown that the washing action in top loaders is inefficient, but cheap, but also, that same action , over time, destroys the clothes. Additinally, they use far more water than front loaders.
Always pay the extra and buy a front loader
Always pay the extra and buy a front loader
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Kin hell you people stop whining can you imagine if you were living 200 years ago 
Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire

Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire
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Kin hell you people stop whining can you imagine if you were living 200 years ago 
Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire

Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire
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Kin hell you people stop whining can you imagine if you were living 200 years ago 
Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire

Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire
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Of course it is. How clean you consider your recently washed clotges are? How well does your oven work? My fancy Maytag has a fan oven that doesn't bake evenly, the NA design of heat at the bottom doesn't help give even cooking. The lower oven door opens downwards onto your toes if you aren't standing far enough back. Once there you have to bend way forwards to lift the heavy casserole out. The controls are at the back so you have to reach over flames/heat/steam to use them. The simmer burners are at the back not the front. Maybe that's all OK for some people as it works and does a job but it does not do it well.
I have a Westinghouse fridge/freezer that came with the house and is at least 25 years old and works perfectly.
Perhaps you chose the wrong model of cooker/stove for your needs?A bit of research probably would have alleviated most of the problems you list. If that was the one you chose then you surely should have realised that it wasn't suitable for you - or was it 'in situ' when you bought the house?
My sister has the most amazing stove/cooker with fan assisted oven which she bought from Sears and bakes and roasts like a dream.
#36
Our top loader is fine. It was one of the more expensive Kenmore ones, and is energy star approved.
Like anything, there are good ones and bad ones out there I guess.
As an engineer I like the idea that with a top loader all the weight is evenly distributed on the bearings, and that you are not reliant on a door seal to keep the water in the machine. Capacities for top loaders seem higher to me too.
Front loaders use less water, so are better if you are on a water meter. If you wash with warm water then that keeps heating costs lower too, but we have a well and wash with cold water anyway. The washing action of a front loader is likely more efficient as the direction is not always changing. I hate the bending over though to get wet clothes out of a front loader, a top loader is certainly easier on my back. Ive certainly know some crap ones though, the one in the apartment I was in when I first arrived was pretty poor.
Like anything, there are good ones and bad ones out there I guess.
As an engineer I like the idea that with a top loader all the weight is evenly distributed on the bearings, and that you are not reliant on a door seal to keep the water in the machine. Capacities for top loaders seem higher to me too.
Front loaders use less water, so are better if you are on a water meter. If you wash with warm water then that keeps heating costs lower too, but we have a well and wash with cold water anyway. The washing action of a front loader is likely more efficient as the direction is not always changing. I hate the bending over though to get wet clothes out of a front loader, a top loader is certainly easier on my back. Ive certainly know some crap ones though, the one in the apartment I was in when I first arrived was pretty poor.
In general I find the NA appliances rather crudely put together although this may partly be down to our choice of appliances in the UK. The dishwasher in the UK still in the house we rent out is an AEG and made hardly any noise you would hardly know it was on. The Fridgidaire dishwasher here is unbelievably noisy. Same with the extractor fan over the cooker - sounds like you're at the end of the runway. The fridge is very noisy I suspect it isn't very efficient. When I had a look around the house in the UK a couple of years ago and had a look at the freezer I'd had to buy for the tenant I was suprised how much insulation there was, although at the cost of interior space.
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I disagree. I require my clothes to be clean, as do most people, and my washing machine gives excellent results.
I have a Westinghouse fridge/freezer that came with the house and is at least 25 years old and works perfectly.
Perhaps you chose the wrong model of cooker/stove for your needs?A bit of research probably would have alleviated most of the problems you list. If that was the one you chose then you surely should have realised that it wasn't suitable for you - or was it 'in situ' when you bought the house?
My sister has the most amazing stove/cooker with fan assisted oven which she bought from Sears and bakes and roasts like a dream.
I have a Westinghouse fridge/freezer that came with the house and is at least 25 years old and works perfectly.
Perhaps you chose the wrong model of cooker/stove for your needs?A bit of research probably would have alleviated most of the problems you list. If that was the one you chose then you surely should have realised that it wasn't suitable for you - or was it 'in situ' when you bought the house?
My sister has the most amazing stove/cooker with fan assisted oven which she bought from Sears and bakes and roasts like a dream.
#38
I've found top loaders here to work ok. However, I find the opposite with the bending issue though - with the top loaders you have to reach down and lift items up and out. With the front loaders the clothes can just be pulled out the side and dropped into a basket.
In general I find the NA appliances rather crudely put together although this may partly be down to our choice of appliances in the UK. The dishwasher in the UK still in the house we rent out is an AEG and made hardly any noise you would hardly know it was on. The Fridgidaire dishwasher here is unbelievably noisy. Same with the extractor fan over the cooker - sounds like you're at the end of the runway. The fridge is very noisy I suspect it isn't very efficient. When I had a look around the house in the UK a couple of years ago and had a look at the freezer I'd had to buy for the tenant I was suprised how much insulation there was, although at the cost of interior space.
In general I find the NA appliances rather crudely put together although this may partly be down to our choice of appliances in the UK. The dishwasher in the UK still in the house we rent out is an AEG and made hardly any noise you would hardly know it was on. The Fridgidaire dishwasher here is unbelievably noisy. Same with the extractor fan over the cooker - sounds like you're at the end of the runway. The fridge is very noisy I suspect it isn't very efficient. When I had a look around the house in the UK a couple of years ago and had a look at the freezer I'd had to buy for the tenant I was suprised how much insulation there was, although at the cost of interior space.
I accept that some appliances on sale in Canada are crap; I accept that some on sale in the UK are crap too.
#39
We have an LG washer and drier. Sometimes, it runs while I am making wine. I had had 30 empty wine bottles on the top of it while it was spinning (from starting to spin to full speed whizzing). Each time this has happened, the bottles have remained in place with no issues at all.
I accept that some appliances on sale in Canada are crap; I accept that some on sale in the UK are crap too.
I accept that some appliances on sale in Canada are crap; I accept that some on sale in the UK are crap too.
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Of course i researched, i read the reviews. It doesn't do the job as well as a cheaper model would have done, it roasts fine but baking is uneven. I said earlier that the top loader that came with this house works better than the new Duet we had. Perhaps the old ones were built to a higher standard but new stuff tens to be flimsy rubbish. I have three Keurig machines sitting waiting to be disposed of, all broken and replaced by the manufacturer within 6 months. We have a Bosch now. Stick blenders, we are on the 4th in 7 years. My Tesco five pound one lasted longer. Vacuum cleaners, not good enough, NA ones replaced with a Miele. TV works ok, that's a Sony. The fridge was cheap so i didnt expect much from it.
The lower oven door opens downwards onto your toes if you aren't standing far enough back. Once there you have to bend way forwards to lift the heavy casserole out. The controls are at the back so you have to reach over flames/heat/steam to use them. The simmer burners are at the back not the front.
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Kin hell you people stop whining can you imagine if you were living 200 years ago 
Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire

Dont like your washer and dryer then nip down to the river and wash them
Hang them out to dry on a washing line especially in February
Dont like your toaster then put bread on a fork over a fire
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#44
I'm so happy for this thread. My bf has been looking at me like I'm a laundry nazi for the last few weeks! The top loader here is simply not getting my clothes clean, and I really dislike the fact that they have no "clean laundry" smell. When I first started off here, I could sense some sort of musky water smell from my (& his) clothes... But now it's faded away. I've gotten so used to it that I don't even know it's there anymore! It makes me cringe to think that other people can probably still smell it on my clothes!
There's a Brit Import store near me, I'm going in search of some Lenor Infusions!
There's a Brit Import store near me, I'm going in search of some Lenor Infusions!
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Glad I'm alone here, as I'm sniffing my clothes and it looks a bit odd....
Yes, we had that smell and put it down to using the dryer - and probably overloading that as well as overloading the washer. That smell you get when things have dried too slowly.
Fortunately we have a washing line here and I hang as much out as I can - that helps. Going into winter I will have to use the dryer so back to smelly washing maybe. I do use Bounce but find it just kind of masks the other smell so it still isn't right.
Maybe we all smell like this and will just get used to it.
In the UK, well, if I had quite a bit of money I would have bought a Bosch. If I had a zillion pounds, a Miele. Same as here.
But had to settle for Indesits. First one was great and lasted years. Second one conked out repeatedly - engineer said "luck of the draw" with cheaper makes; recommended Bosch or Miele and said the extra money paid on other models was just for whistles and bells so if you had to buy cheap might as well buy the cheapest and take your chance.
Yes, we had that smell and put it down to using the dryer - and probably overloading that as well as overloading the washer. That smell you get when things have dried too slowly.
Fortunately we have a washing line here and I hang as much out as I can - that helps. Going into winter I will have to use the dryer so back to smelly washing maybe. I do use Bounce but find it just kind of masks the other smell so it still isn't right.
Maybe we all smell like this and will just get used to it.
In the UK, well, if I had quite a bit of money I would have bought a Bosch. If I had a zillion pounds, a Miele. Same as here.
But had to settle for Indesits. First one was great and lasted years. Second one conked out repeatedly - engineer said "luck of the draw" with cheaper makes; recommended Bosch or Miele and said the extra money paid on other models was just for whistles and bells so if you had to buy cheap might as well buy the cheapest and take your chance.




