Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9989643)

So that is what integration is all about, daleks and men in white nighties telling a woman wearing a normal outfit that she is naked and is trying to seduce men.

Pathetic, and what where the police doing at the time this was going on?

Originally Posted by kirstybowles (Post 9989630)

27 years living in Bradford,this is the norm and the majority of muslims vue thats why i moved out and thats a small part of why we are geting the **** out of hear.

Originally Posted by Canuck74 (Post 9989668)

What a load of crap! Stay in the UK. We don't want CHAV SCUM in Canada.

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 9989669)

Are you from Bradford then?

Originally Posted by Canuck74 (Post 9989676)

Nope. The extremist don't speak for all Muslims. It's like saying that the EDL, BNP, National Front and other White Racialist organizations speak for all white people.

Originally Posted by jericho (Post 9989730)

I'm surprised that people think all the muslims in that video actually believe what they were saying (looking naked, seducing men, burn in hell, etc). I'm more inclined to believe they're a little caught up in the moment and said things they didnt really mean.
However, that doesnt make it right or any less palatable.

I do believe though that the UK has long since crossed a threshold when it comes to immigration- particularly with immigrants from Arab or middle Eastern countries. The UK is a good example of an immigration policy having failed. The government should be firm and issue a "put up or shut up" message- much like the Australians have, and show the door to anyone who doesnt like it.
The UK doesnt provide a right to "free speech" (in the American sense), and should simply lock up and/or deport those that are trying to incite racial hatred, incite riots, or conspire to commit other criminal acts.

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9989819)

Hmmm

I remember driving through France and seeing signs saying La France: aime-la ou quitte-la! All from Le Pen's Front National.

It is not company I would like to keep.

Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 9989829)

But... what is wrong with saying "France, love it or leave it"? That's not even racist. It's simply saying that you either accept the country you are living in with all its good and bad sides or leave it. Or am I missing something? :confused:

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9989838)

How do you accept a country?

Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 9989829)

But... what is wrong with saying "France, love it or leave it"? That's not even racist. It's simply saying that you either accept the country you are living in with all its good and bad sides or leave it. Or am I missing something? :confused:

Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 9989860)

OK, put this in to context if it makes it easier...

Do you accept Canada for what it is? Or do you feel you need to make changes and inflict your ideas on the rest of the population??? :frown:

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9989966)

I think you are. The slogan is intentionally divisive. To create an us and them sentiment amongst the indigenous population. If an immigrant wants to come to our country they should be happy to doff their caps, work s****y jobs for less than minimum wage and be grateful for it. It means the immigrant should not expect the same due process that an indigenous person expects. They are slightly less deserving of consideration as a human being.

I know that is not what the words say, but in mainstream politics you cannot speak extremist views out loud. You have to speak in code. Decoded, "France, love it or leave it" means **** off darkies.



I don't think Canada is perfect (we elected Harper FFS). But part of the responsibilities of living in a democracy - both in Canada and France - is to engage in the political process.

Yes, I accept Canada for what it is. A country moulded by the input of immigrants.

Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 9989966)

I think you are. The slogan is intentionally divisive. To create an us and them sentiment amongst the indigenous population. If an immigrant wants to come to our country they should be happy to doff their caps, work s****y jobs for less than minimum wage and be grateful for it. It means the immigrant should not expect the same due process that an indigenous person expects. They are slightly less deserving of consideration as a human being.

I know that is not what the words say, but in mainstream politics you cannot speak extremist views out loud. You have to speak in code. Decoded, "France, love it or leave it" means **** off darkies.



I don't think Canada is perfect (we elected Harper FFS). But part of the responsibilities of living in a democracy - both in Canada and France - is to engage in the political process.

Yes, I accept Canada for what it is. A country moulded by the input of immigrants.

Originally Posted by DandNHill (Post 9990501)

. If you're an immigrant and you're not happy with the religion of the country you're living in or the culture then why did you move there? Move on...