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Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:48 am
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Remarkable Lady, RIP Baroness.

"I think we've been through a period where too many people have been given to understand that if they have a problem, it's the government's job to cope with it. 'I have a problem, I'll get a grant.' 'I'm homeless, the government must house me.' They're casting their problem on society. And, you know, there is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first. It's our duty to look after ourselves and then, also to look after our neighbour. People have got the entitlements too much in mind, without the obligations. There's no such thing as entitlement, unless someone has first met an obligation."
 
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Best tweet I have seen "Looking forward to hearing about who found all the horcruxes".
 
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Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
I will be having a big drink tonight, but I admit that it is largely coincidental, as today is my 'going-home' day after 42 days up here!

I hated her when she was in power for her callous indifference to the suffering she brought about, but she left power in 1990... 23 years ago. I celebrated her resignation, and then she was history to me.

No tears, but no real celebrations either. That's distasteful, imo. If you still expend so much emotional energy on her after so long, she's won.
Callous indifference, that sums her us well.

I feel sorry for St Peter.
 
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So is somebody going to say this is what happens when you let a woman out of the kitchen
 
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OK so here is the Twitter response to Harry from One Direction tweet about Thatchers' death. Made me laugh !
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Originally Posted by London-England-Lads
Didn't think this would ever happened.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...ter-to-MP.html
Me neither.....WOW.....I suppose it was going to happen sooner or later though
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Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey
Its sad to see so many people celebrate the death of another..i dont remember such jubilation when Bin Laden copped a wrong un
Like she cared the absolute misery she heaped on the Northern mining communities. I stood on many picket lines at Wapping in the 80's and had my rights removed one by one by that person. I dont celebrate her death cos ive long got over her.

I just heard though that she's already shut down 4 furnaces in Hell.
 
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Like she cared the absolute misery she heaped on the Northern mining communities. I stood on many picket lines at Wapping in the 80's and had my rights removed one by one by that person. I dont celebrate her death cos ive long got over her.

I just heard though that she's already shut down 4 furnaces in Hell.
I too also stood on the picket lines in South Yorkshire but I wasnt throwing bricks, bottles and other assorted crap at the miners.
So looking back do you think the coal mines would have survived if she left them open and at what cost to the UK taxpayer?
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
I too also stood on the picket lines in South Yorkshire but I wasnt throwing bricks, bottles and other assorted crap at the miners.
So looking back do you think the coal mines would have survived if she left them open and at what cost to the UK taxpayer?
Its not about whether they would of stayed open it was her haste to shut them and not caring at all about entire towns going to the wall that makes her quite evil. What cost to the taxpaxer? God forbid we should try and look after our own. I used to earn 63 quid a week on Fleet St as a kid, (we werent all on big money) and gave would give a fiver to the miners out of that.
 
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Originally Posted by dg31
RIP Lady T; the greatest peacetime Prime Minister we ever had.
In spades...dragged the UK back from the brink of been dictated to and virtually governed by the Trade Unions....
 
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I too also stood on the picket lines in South Yorkshire but I wasnt throwing bricks, bottles and other assorted crap at the miners.
So looking back do you think the coal mines would have survived if she left them open and at what cost to the UK taxpayer?
An ex PC from Yorkshire told me he bought all new kitchen appliances on his overtime from the picket lines. I suppose the taxpayer didn't pay for them.
 
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An ex PC from Yorkshire told me he bought all new kitchen appliances on his overtime from the picket lines. I suppose the taxpayer didn't pay for them.
Yes the taxpayer did pay for them as part of his OT payments the same way I paid some of my bills off. Do you honestly believe that the police wanted to do this? They were forced to do this because of the potential for the violence due to the strike.
Looking back if she had sent the troops in to help curtail the violence do you think the miners would have given the Parachute Regiment or the Scottish Regiments as much grief on the picket lines.
There again she could have just let them go at each other with no police or army intervention I wonder what the results would have been
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Yes the taxpayer did pay for them as part of his OT payments the same way I paid some of my bills off. Do you honestly believe that the police wanted to do this? They were forced to do this because of the potential for the violence due to the strike.
Looking back if she had sent the troops in to help curtail the violence do you think the miners would have given the Parachute Regiment or the Scottish Regiments as much grief on the picket lines.
There again she could have just let them go at each other with no police or army intervention I wonder what the results would have been
Thatcher's use of the police force as a political enforcement agency was also amply demonstrated at the Battle of the Beanfield 1984
 
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Yes the taxpayer did pay for them as part of his OT payments the same way I paid some of my bills off. Do you honestly believe that the police wanted to do this? They were forced to do this because of the potential for the violence due to the strike.
Looking back if she had sent the troops in to help curtail the violence do you think the miners would have given the Parachute Regiment or the Scottish Regiments as much grief on the picket lines.
There again she could have just let them go at each other with no police or army intervention I wonder what the results would have been
I'll ask this again.

What's better for a country paying someone to mine at a loss (create resources) or paying someone to sit at home doing nothing?

I know in the ideal scenario that we can sell our mines/manufacturing plants and the people can get jobs elsewhere.

The trouble is in reality there wasn't anywhere for a lot of the workers to go to, and therefore they couldn't get a job elsewhere. Maybe if she had developed a good strategy to close the areas overtime and perhaps introduce new privatised businesses into the local areas to help ease the transistion things would have been better but she didn't.

To me she is without a doubt the most notable PM Britain has ever had but I personally feel much like some others on here that it was her policies that crippled the countries future prospects. I unlike the others don't hate her though, she was in charge during one of the worst times in Britains recent history at the time, people often forget about this.

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
Yes the taxpayer did pay for them as part of his OT payments the same way I paid some of my bills off. Do you honestly believe that the police wanted to do this? They were forced to do this because of the potential for the violence due to the strike.
Looking back if she had sent the troops in to help curtail the violence do you think the miners would have given the Parachute Regiment or the Scottish Regiments as much grief on the picket lines.
There again she could have just let them go at each other with no police or army intervention I wonder what the results would have been
Potential for violence.... potential...
 


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