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Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by mdizzle
Presumably you're from the South-East? Because on my Facebook the general view is most definitely not a favourable one.
I am, but my FB friends who have commented on her death are from all over the UK, and other countries too. Only a couple are Southerners.
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:01 am
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Hope this works. Great mistake on bbc website. It was the Union's that got to Thatcher !
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Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:04 am
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RIP Maggie.

People generally hated her or loved her but you can't deny she had balls and a bigger backbone than today's cabinet.

I did not agree with her politics but as a woman I admired her courage in adversity and the fact that she fought hard for what she believed in. Not a simpering leader afraid to say boo to a goose.

Love her or hate her the lady has just died and she and her family deserve some respect. Today is not the day to vent spleen.

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Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:15 am
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Originally Posted by mdizzle
Riiiight. Presumably never been to Scotland, Wales or any other traditionally industrial part of the UK? You'll have to trust me on this one - she's largely disliked.
Industries that thought they could carry on forever losing fortunes for the country while the taxpayer propped them up?

Get a grip.
 
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Originally Posted by christmasoompa
I am, but my FB friends who have commented on her death are from all over the UK, and other countries too. Only a couple are Southerners.
Interesting. The poll posted above on the Guardian's website shows a 80/20 split against Thatcher receiving a state funeral which is an indication that she wasn't considered all that great a leader. You certainly wouldn't see a result like that in a poll on Churchill.
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:20 am
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Originally Posted by mdizzle
Presumably you're from the South-East? Because on my Facebook the general view is most definitely not a favourable one.
Probably a feed full of similar "bitter and entitled" sorts?
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:22 am
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This is a good summary of her time -

"The woman who massively widened the already obscene gap between the rich and the poor, as her supporters in big business, the newly privatised utilities, and the arms and defence industries made billions. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer, and the word 'underclass' entered the public vocabulary for the first time. For millions of people, Thatcherism represented nothing more than crippling unemployment, homelessness, poverty, crime, drug abuse and hopelessness. For the elite Thatcherism represented an opportunity for the rich to get even richer by asset-stripping the country, as the orgy of greed that was Deregulation, was spun to look like something that the nation should be proud of, rather than the obscene, carpet-bagging, feeding frenzy that it actually was."
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by orly
Probably a feed full of similar "bitter and entitled" sorts?
Swing and a miss on that one, champ.


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Originally Posted by orly
Industries that thought they could carry on forever losing fortunes for the country while the taxpayer propped them up?

Get a grip.
Not entirely accurate, some of the industries she broke apart are now costing the country a lot more money. The railways are a prime example, the Brits spend/spent more on Railtrack and Network rail than they ever did for British rail.

It's playing the numbers game 'these plants that had 1000's of workers all paying taxes are losing money, lets make them unemployed and pay them to sit on the dole and not reclaim any tax' add these costs together and was it truly losing the government money?

Even if it broke even what would you rather, produce for a negative return or not produce for negative return?

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Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
One also has to ask since the 90s how many people have left the UK and one has to question why. Fast forward to today how many are leaving the UK and why. Lack of jobs, country allegedly going to the dogs. Is this Thatchers fault or down to the crap leaders the UK have had since?
As the left will continually tell you: It's all Thatcher's fault!

No matter what 'it' might be.

Back in the real world, Britain was socially and economically bankrupt at the end of the 70s, which is the only reason people were willing to turn their back on hard-left Labour and wet-left Tories and elect someone who was capable of turning the country around. If they hadn't, I'd have joined the brain drain as soon as I finished university.

Thatcher had plenty of faults, but she was the only post-WWII politician who was worth a damn.
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:31 am
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With all the benefit cuts coming in this week - hand in hand with tax cuts for the mega rich, of course - sadly, her spirit is alive and well.
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:34 am
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Maybe way back when they should have let Arthur Scargill and his ilk run the show. I wonder where that might have led ?
 
Old Apr 8th 2013 | 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by London-England-Lads
Nope but I would suggest that many people reflect on things in a different way now. What she did to the North East. I am not going to get into a huge political debate now!

As I said I did not like Thatcher, but at least unlike Blair, she had a backbone. You could really hate her


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I am not debating her policies, simply what you said. After she did "What she did to the North East" her party secured a large majority in the House of Commons. Hardly proof that only those in the south east supported her.
 
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I am not debating her policies, simply what you said. After she did "What she did to the North East" her party secured a large majority in the House of Commons. Hardly proof that only those in the south east supported her.
In Hindsight - people who voted for, now realise the damage her government did to this country.

I am talking now, not then. Historical her record is damaging ! Like Blair's will be ! But at least Thatcher had balls!

Also through political history the South east has always kept the tories strong !
 
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Originally Posted by London-England-Lads
In Hindsight - people who voted for, now realise the damage her government did to this country.

I am talking now, not then. Historical her record is damaging ! Like Blair's will be ! But at least Thatcher had balls!

Also through political history the South east has always kept the tories strong !
So now you know why Northerners have a dislike for the southern pansy shandy drinkers then Oh and crap football teams.
 


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