Thatcher dies
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Hope this works. Great mistake on bbc website. It was the Union's that got to Thatcher !
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RIP Maggie.
People generally hated her or loved her but you can't deny she had balls and a bigger backbone than today's cabinet.
I did not agree with her politics but as a woman I admired her courage in adversity and the fact that she fought hard for what she believed in. Not a simpering leader afraid to say boo to a goose.
Love her or hate her the lady has just died and she and her family deserve some respect. Today is not the day to vent spleen.
J
People generally hated her or loved her but you can't deny she had balls and a bigger backbone than today's cabinet.
I did not agree with her politics but as a woman I admired her courage in adversity and the fact that she fought hard for what she believed in. Not a simpering leader afraid to say boo to a goose.
Love her or hate her the lady has just died and she and her family deserve some respect. Today is not the day to vent spleen.
J
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Get a grip.
#35
Interesting. The poll posted above on the Guardian's website shows a 80/20 split against Thatcher receiving a state funeral which is an indication that she wasn't considered all that great a leader. You certainly wouldn't see a result like that in a poll on Churchill.
#37
This is a good summary of her time -
"The woman who massively widened the already obscene gap between the rich and the poor, as her supporters in big business, the newly privatised utilities, and the arms and defence industries made billions. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer, and the word 'underclass' entered the public vocabulary for the first time. For millions of people, Thatcherism represented nothing more than crippling unemployment, homelessness, poverty, crime, drug abuse and hopelessness. For the elite Thatcherism represented an opportunity for the rich to get even richer by asset-stripping the country, as the orgy of greed that was Deregulation, was spun to look like something that the nation should be proud of, rather than the obscene, carpet-bagging, feeding frenzy that it actually was."
"The woman who massively widened the already obscene gap between the rich and the poor, as her supporters in big business, the newly privatised utilities, and the arms and defence industries made billions. The rich got richer, the poor got poorer, and the word 'underclass' entered the public vocabulary for the first time. For millions of people, Thatcherism represented nothing more than crippling unemployment, homelessness, poverty, crime, drug abuse and hopelessness. For the elite Thatcherism represented an opportunity for the rich to get even richer by asset-stripping the country, as the orgy of greed that was Deregulation, was spun to look like something that the nation should be proud of, rather than the obscene, carpet-bagging, feeding frenzy that it actually was."
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It's playing the numbers game 'these plants that had 1000's of workers all paying taxes are losing money, lets make them unemployed and pay them to sit on the dole and not reclaim any tax' add these costs together and was it truly losing the government money?
Even if it broke even what would you rather, produce for a negative return or not produce for negative return?
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One also has to ask since the 90s how many people have left the UK and one has to question why. Fast forward to today how many are leaving the UK and why. Lack of jobs, country allegedly going to the dogs. Is this Thatchers fault or down to the crap leaders the UK have had since?
No matter what 'it' might be.
Back in the real world, Britain was socially and economically bankrupt at the end of the 70s, which is the only reason people were willing to turn their back on hard-left Labour and wet-left Tories and elect someone who was capable of turning the country around. If they hadn't, I'd have joined the brain drain as soon as I finished university.
Thatcher had plenty of faults, but she was the only post-WWII politician who was worth a damn.
#41
With all the benefit cuts coming in this week - hand in hand with tax cuts for the mega rich, of course - sadly, her spirit is alive and well.
#42
Maybe way back when they should have let Arthur Scargill and his ilk run the show. I wonder where that might have led ?
#43
Nope but I would suggest that many people reflect on things in a different way now. What she did to the North East. I am not going to get into a huge political debate now!
As I said I did not like Thatcher, but at least unlike Blair, she had a backbone. You could really hate her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U - Spitting Image "My Way"
As I said I did not like Thatcher, but at least unlike Blair, she had a backbone. You could really hate her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1jY5fYjV-U - Spitting Image "My Way"
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I am talking now, not then. Historical her record is damaging ! Like Blair's will be ! But at least Thatcher had balls!
Also through political history the South east has always kept the tories strong !
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In Hindsight - people who voted for, now realise the damage her government did to this country.
I am talking now, not then. Historical her record is damaging ! Like Blair's will be ! But at least Thatcher had balls!
Also through political history the South east has always kept the tories strong !
I am talking now, not then. Historical her record is damaging ! Like Blair's will be ! But at least Thatcher had balls!
Also through political history the South east has always kept the tories strong !
Oh and crap football teams.




