Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10649406)

It's actually only one day. The poisonous bitch has f***ed up Britain since 1979 and her toxic legacy is still there.

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 10649374)

I love all these experts, sitting in the comfort of their living room, analyzing and criticizing a decision that had to be made in seconds.

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10649418)

If you equate wealth with toxicity, perhaps.

Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10649335)

:lol: So patronising. I didn't realise I was talking to an expert, armed with his one Guardian article.

So the change of direction away from the British wasn't retreating? How would you describe it? It's stated in that article (which seems to have been taken as absolute authority on the issue) that the ship could return "if deemed necessary".

But you're right, she behaved admirably. Now, how do you feel about her support of Apartheid?

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10649419)

I wasn't going to bother but I remember reading that the Belgrano's position had been followed for about two days.

You make it sound like it suddenly appeared and an urgent response was called for.

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10649419)

I wasn't going to bother but I remember reading that the Belgrano's position had been followed for about two days.

You make it sound like it suddenly appeared and an urgent response was called for.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 10649086)

I take it you have chosen to ignore the comments:

"Captain Héctor Bonzo also admits that, far from retreating from the British Task Force as he sailed west with two accompanying destroyers, his change of direction was a temporary manoeuvre"

"The revelations come in a documentary to be broadcast tonight on the National Geographic Channel, in which Bonzo, commander of the General Belgrano, reveals the fact that by the end of April 1982, one month into the war, the Argentine navy had changed its rules of engagement, and he was under orders to fire on any British warships that came within range of his guns"

"...the British Government had been made aware of Peruvian efforts to find a peaceful solution to the crisis caused by the Argentine invasion of the Falklands"

"According to Bonzo, the Belgrano's move before dawn on 2 May was only a temporary manoeuvre. Woodward explains the potential impact of this manoeuvre: 'I think a lot of people outside didn't understand how important a threat Belgrano and her destroyers were"

Now, of course, I accept that you have much greater knowledge about the events than those that were there but still ...

I aslo note that you have not replied to my query regarding the Sir Galahad. Do you care to now?

Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10649356)

Maybe just admit you're wrong and admit ethics do play a part in war and we can all move on.

Originally Posted by mdizzle (Post 10649335)

Now, how do you feel about her support of Apartheid?

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10649448)

Let's not confuse tactics with strategy. the whole affair was a result of Thatcher's and Carington's incompetence in failing to recognize the obvious reaction to the withdrawal of the single navy ship in Falklands waters.

I have great sympathy for the thousands of service men on both sides who paid for her mistake. But when her government whipped up a jingoistic frenzy about the Argies etc. that was it for me.

I'm surprised that someone hasn't already commemorated her death by posting

GOTCHA!

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10649431)

Perhaps you should re-read and reconsider that remark? 'Cos it's nonsense.

Edit: How old are you?

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10649474)

She famously said, “there is no such thing as society.” She then proceeded to try and put that theory into practice. ;)

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10649474)

She famously said, “there is no such thing as society.” She then proceeded to try and put that theory into practice. ;)

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10649483)

Do you recall what she said that in relation to...certainly a famous quotation?