I've been Santa'd! My friend came over for a couple of drinks after work yesterday and brought me a nice brie, some beautiful big mushrooms, (oh, what an omellete I had this morning!), and a mickey of Captain Morgan dark. Since one of my ancestors was a 17th century privateer I was overwhelmed, and just had the first Cuba Libre out of it. Thank you Santa and Elton. I wanted to give him my little guitar but he says he doesn't want it.

After 4 Cuba Libres, 'Socialismo en Mexico en quinze anos! Tambien Fidel! Tambien Mao!' (Communist guerillas on a train heading home to Yucatan).

Sod all!

I want to go there someday, but don't want to risk the embargo violation entering on a US Passport, and its too cumbersome getting there, going direct from Canada is too obvious...

I figure at some point in my life, the embargo will be lifted.

It really is ridiculous. Presumably just the Cuban voters in Florida keeping it going.

Can't you just enter on your UK passport? Assuming you're a Brit that is

Not if he is a USC.

From a different thread....

Oops... True! I think I posted in that thread/read that too! Oh man i'm getting tired

Why not? How would the US find out he traveled to Cuba if he used a NON-US passport? I know technically you are correct, because under US law it says no american citizen can travel to cuba, but thats beside the point. Realistically thinking how would they find out? Cuba doesn't even stamp your passport because of the whole US embargo thing.

Is it not the country of other citizenship's business if he travels to Cuba using that passport? In my opinion, USC or not, it's not the US's business as long as he's using a foreign (non-us) passport, and not flying directly to Cuba from the US, which isn't possible anyway.

That's like saying the U.S will prosecute a 19 year old American citizen who went to Canada to drink because he's legal there, but not legal in the US... It's just absurd and irrational

It's not beside the point at all. USCs are not allowed to visit Cuba...unless they have permission. Whether you'll be found out or not...you are still breaking the law. You may be a citizen of a dozen countries...but as far as the US government is concerned you are a USC.

Very true. And as I said, you are correct... I was just asking how they would find out...

[quote=gozitanguygoinghome99xx;11053032I was just asking how they would find out...[/quote]

Maybe they won't but would you take the risk?

Treasury Department regulations say: "The Cuban Assets Control Regulations, 31 CFR Part 515 (the 'Regulations'), were issued by the U.S. Government on July 8, 1963, under the Trading With the Enemy Act in response to certain hostile actions by the Cuban Government. They apply to all persons (individuals and entities) subject to U.S. jurisdiction …as well as all persons engaging in transactions that involve property in or otherwise subject to the jurisdiction of the United States."


"Criminal penalties for violating the Regulations range up to 10 years in prison, $1,000,000 in corporate fines, and $250,000 in individual fines. Civil penalties up to $65,000 per violation may also be imposed."

If one takes a flight from say Toronto to Cuba, it passes through US Air Space, and doing so the passenger list, including passport information is provided to the US, and presto the government now know's who is on the flight.

I am sure there are other ways they can find out as well, but that is the most obvious.

Now some USC's do take the risk, and get away with it, but I am not one who is willing to take said risk just to visit Cuba.

Just to get back on track...I also got a necklace...a pearl necklace.

We are now in Florida enjoying our 'big' present to each other, slightly knackered after a gruelling days travel yesterday, just barely awake