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Should BC consider a name change?

Old Jul 1st 2020, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by withabix View Post
....and yet nobody has insisted that the Stanley Cup or the Grey Cup get renamed immediately.

Both named after front-line racists....
Isn't that because the audience for those games is old white men? I don't think the Grey Cup is ever mentioned in Ontario. Ice hockey is sometimes and it's represented on television by aging racists, race baiting (baiting Scandinavians!) is an acceptable part of the commentary. If baseball or basketball had a cup named for a racist then I think people would have noticed but ice hockey, American football in Canada and, for that matter wrestling, draw niche audiences who aren't tuned in to the idea that racism is problematic..
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Old Jul 3rd 2020, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 View Post
I'd honestly stick with British Columbia. I am also in general against all these name changes. One can find racism and sexism everywhere if one wants to. One tends to forget that there is a history behind everything, even though history wasn't always nice. Charles Lindbergh was also an ardent Nazi, and his statues aren't disappearing, nor is the plane "Spirit of Saint Louis" in some US museum......

Regarding BC, any other name, however this should include some reference to the Pacific Ocean, maybe "Pacific Canada" or "Pacific Columbia"....

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Old Jul 3rd 2020, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by OrangeMango View Post
I'd honestly stick with British Columbia. I am also in general against all these name changes. One tends to forget that there is a history behind everything, even though history wasn't always nice.
Any other name, however should include some reference to the Pacific Ocean, maybe "Pacific Canada" or "Pacific Columbia"....
Columbia was part of the objection, since Columbus was effectively lost at sea before he was rescued by Caribbean natives and then started abusing them (he never actually set foot on America), so that won't help. I don't mind British Columbia at all, although the longer I hang around here the less appealing the name British becomes . It's too diverse for any one new descriptive name. Maybe we should wait another hundred or two hundred years, and if humans have survived, we can talk about it again.
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Old Jul 4th 2020, 4:50 pm
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Columbia was part of the objection, since Columbus was effectively lost at sea before he was rescued by Caribbean natives and then started abusing them (he never actually set foot on America), so that won't help. I don't mind British Columbia at all, although the longer I hang around here the less appealing the name British becomes . It's too diverse for any one new descriptive name. Maybe we should wait another hundred or two hundred years, and if humans have survived, we can talk about it again.
I didn't know whether it would be "British" in reference to colonialism, or "Columbia" in reference to Christopher Columbus.

In the end, it's all history. One can find a racist everywhere. But again, it's history, and that's it. I am also against changing names and bringing down statues. History is not what was right or wrong back then, it's documentary.

Outside the Houses of Parliament there is a statue of Oliver Cromwell on a horse. Everyone into history knows he brought hardship and injustice to the Irish, but again, it's history. History doesn't change just because one brings down statues or changes names.

I hope that BC will be BC for a long time.
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A compromise might be to change the name to BC. Just BC. The colonial oppressors are disenfranchised and everyone still knows where it is.
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Old Jul 5th 2020, 12:42 am
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How about Phoca vitulina
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Default Re: Should BC consider a name change?

Hi

'Land of the bud' province ?

i was told once

name changes are good they wipe out history

cheers
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