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fledermaus Jan 20th 2009 4:50 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 7192521)
As Sue said, you are not privvy to what goes on behind the scenes. That thread stays closed.

I don't care about the thread being reopened. I do care that the Mods have said that I started the thread to wind someone up. I didn't. I have said so a few times, I have even apologized if it was seen that way.

Once more I strongly resent being accused of something I did not do.

You may have valid reasons for closing the thread but don't accuse me of malice .

Gremmie Jan 20th 2009 4:52 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 7192521)
As Sue said, you are not privvy to what goes on behind the scenes. That thread stays closed.

:rofl::rofl: We have now enterd the Kindergarten :rofl::p

Ka Ora! Jan 20th 2009 4:54 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7192547)
I don't care about the thread being reopened. I do care that the Mods have said that I started the thread to wind someone up. I didn't. I have said so a few times, I have even apologized if it was seen that way.

Once more I strongly resent being accused of something I did not do.

You may have valid reasons for closing the thread but don't accuse me of malice .

Take it up by PM, It's a far better approach to dealing with issues, When laundry gets aired people look for stains.

DaveLovesDee Jan 20th 2009 4:56 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by Ka Ora! (Post 7192566)
When laundry gets aired people look for staines.

That's in Middlesex, innit?

Ka Ora! Jan 20th 2009 4:57 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by CaptainHook (Post 7192574)
That's in Middlesex, innit?

Last time I looked yes, Somewhere to be avoided if I recall.

dbd33 Jan 20th 2009 5:06 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7192541)
I totally agree as was mentioned earlier I think my post should have been deleted if it was judged to be inappropriate (even though I was just trying to be funny) and the thread allowed to continue.

I laughed. I guess I laughed alone.

Elaine B. Jan 20th 2009 5:10 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7192611)
I laughed. I guess I laughed alone.

You have a rare unique sense of humour it seems. I shall have to work on my material so it appeals to a wider audience or alternatively just shut the hell up.

Gremmie Jan 20th 2009 5:12 am

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Originally Posted by Elaine B. (Post 7192622)
You have a rare unique sense of humour it seems.

It,s the way you tell um:rofl::rofl: boom boom

here,s a thought tho,,if you move to NS do you loose ya sense of humour:confused:

DaveLovesDee Jan 20th 2009 5:29 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by Gremmie (Post 7192626)
It,s the way you tell um:rofl::rofl: boom boom

here,s a thought tho,,if you move to NS do you loose ya sense of humour:confused:

Or do you only move ther if you've already lost it?

BristolUK Jan 20th 2009 6:03 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 7191934)
The IF thread was closed as it was deemed to be taking the proverbial.


Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7191906)
It wasn't mocking anyone. I thought of the thread when I was watching him on TV this morning, about stereotypes, how many would be scared of him if he were wearing a hoodie rather than preppy clothes. About assumptions based on appearances.


Originally Posted by Sue (Post 7191959)
The threads in question were made to wind up another member, we let it go on for a bit then decided to draw it to a close. Stuff like that is alright up to a point but we have to stop it eventually, cause once it goes on too long its not really funny anymore.


Originally Posted by AmyDavid (Post 7191966)
That is the point - it was getting out of hand as it was there to carry on winding someone up. Nuff said.


Originally Posted by fledermaus (Post 7191987)
I wasn't taking the proverbial in the if thread. I'm sorry you saw it that way. Maybe I needed to be clearer...

I'm sure Fledermaus didn't set out to wind anyone up. I'm sure the intention was to highlight stereotypes.

It is, however, clear from other threads what would have happened as a result of the words Hoodie and gone to the dogs.

Those BE members who delight in using their superior intellect to put down certain posters at every opportunity (never tiring of 'the joke') would have used this opportunity too. Hence it was deemed to have the potential for this.

The thing is, the smart-ass one liners and insults (even the comment made about taking the dog for a walk in the early hours) encourage others to join the repartee and it all snowballs. What is initially a bit of fun degenerates into a situation where the 'target' is belittled by all and sundry - including otherwise well meaning posters 'carried away' by it all - just because they have a different opinion/experience.

But it's not just that; there's a bigger picture. There are plenty of people who share just one or two beliefs/experiences of the target and they may be put off posting their valid points for fear of being disparaged as well.

The country gone to the dogs argument, for example, might include all or several of "scroungers", Hoodies, binge drinking, immigrants, corrupt politicians, unsocial behaviour, weather, crime, attitudes, too much tax, poor education and other things. Comment unfavourably on just one or two aspects of that and the pack of hounds 'pounce' as if one is a paid up member of the BNP or the Bring back National Service hanging's too good for 'em bring back the birch Brigade and soon one's flesh is torn asunder. One is labelled as someone to ridicule.

I visit several forums on this site and it's noticeable that people have been 'frightened off' from the Canada side. It's too easy to say they should just grow a thicker skin. Did anyone else notice how contrite some people were on the thread about that disabled guy when it was discovered it was genuine and the OP was not a troll after all and had probably been beaten off?



Perhaps Fledermaus could start a new thread as was originally intended.

FlirtyKnickers Jan 20th 2009 6:09 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 
Any chance of getting my whip back please:p

dbd33 Jan 20th 2009 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 7192823)
I'm sure Fledermaus didn't set out to wind anyone up. I'm sure the intention was to highlight stereotypes.

It is, however, clear from other threads what would have happened as a result of the words Hoodie and gone to the dogs.

Those BE members who delight in using their superior intellect to put down certain posters at every opportunity (never tiring of 'the joke') would have used this opportunity too. Hence it was deemed to have the potential for this.

The thing is, the smart-ass one liners and insults (even the comment made about taking the dog for a walk in the early hours) encourage others to join the repartee and it all snowballs. What is initially a bit of fun degenerates into a situation where the 'target' is belittled by all and sundry - including otherwise well meaning posters 'carried away' by it all - just because they have a different opinion/experience.

But it's not just that; there's a bigger picture. There are plenty of people who share just one or two beliefs/experiences of the target and they may be put off posting their valid points for fear of being disparaged as well.

The country gone to the dogs argument, for example, might include all or several of "scroungers", Hoodies, binge drinking, immigrants, corrupt politicians, unsocial behaviour, weather, crime, attitudes, too much tax, poor education and other things. Comment unfavourably on just one or two aspects of that and the pack of hounds 'pounce' as if one is a paid up member of the BNP or the Bring back National Service hanging's too good for 'em bring back the birch Brigade and soon one's flesh is torn asunder. One is labelled as someone to ridicule.

I visit several forums on this site and it's noticeable that people have been 'frightened off' from the Canada side. It's too easy to say they should just grow a thicker skin. Did anyone else notice how contrite some people were on the thread about that disabled guy when it was discovered it was genuine and the OP was not a troll after all and had probably been beaten off?



Perhaps Fledermaus could start a new thread as was originally intended.

The target wasn't the "country gone to the dogs" posters.

BristolUK Jan 20th 2009 6:18 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 7192859)
The target wasn't the "country gone to the dogs" posters.

Didn't say it was. I said the likely outcome of the innocent and unrelated thread - having mentioned gone to the dogs - was that it would bring it out again.

Just as in an equally different and unrelated thread mention of walking the dog in the early hours (a clear reference to a legit gone to the dogs thread) was made.

dbd33 Jan 20th 2009 6:32 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 7192893)
Didn't say it was. I said the likely outcome of the innocent and unrelated thread - having mentioned gone to the dogs - was that it would bring it out again.

Just as in an equally different and unrelated thread mention of walking the dog in the early hours (a clear reference to a legit gone to the dogs thread) was made.

Country. Dogs. Nothing to do with thread closure.

tinytears Jan 20th 2009 6:34 am

Re: Was This The Shortest Thread On BE - Ever
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 7192823)
I'm sure Fledermaus didn't set out to wind anyone up. I'm sure the intention was to highlight stereotypes.

It is, however, clear from other threads what would have happened as a result of the words Hoodie and gone to the dogs.

Those BE members who delight in using their superior intellect to put down certain posters at every opportunity (never tiring of 'the joke') would have used this opportunity too. Hence it was deemed to have the potential for this.

The thing is, the smart-ass one liners and insults (even the comment made about taking the dog for a walk in the early hours) encourage others to join the repartee and it all snowballs. What is initially a bit of fun degenerates into a situation where the 'target' is belittled by all and sundry - including otherwise well meaning posters 'carried away' by it all - just because they have a different opinion/experience.

But it's not just that; there's a bigger picture. There are plenty of people who share just one or two beliefs/experiences of the target and they may be put off posting their valid points for fear of being disparaged as well.

The country gone to the dogs argument, for example, might include all or several of "scroungers", Hoodies, binge drinking, immigrants, corrupt politicians, unsocial behaviour, weather, crime, attitudes, too much tax, poor education and other things. Comment unfavourably on just one or two aspects of that and the pack of hounds 'pounce' as if one is a paid up member of the BNP or the Bring back National Service hanging's too good for 'em bring back the birch Brigade and soon one's flesh is torn asunder. One is labelled as someone to ridicule.

I visit several forums on this site and it's noticeable that people have been 'frightened off' from the Canada side. It's too easy to say they should just grow a thicker skin. Did anyone else notice how contrite some people were on the thread about that disabled guy when it was discovered it was genuine and the OP was not a troll after all and had probably been beaten off?



Perhaps Fledermaus could start a new thread as was originally intended.

Absolutely 100% agree with all of this.

From a personal perspective only, I would imagine that this forum was set up initially so that expats had somewhere to gather and catch up with each other. Then I guess the site involved so that you have people like me and many others who are coming on here for advice and assistance but more importantly to connect and build up our own support networks with people who are at a similar stage in the process and who are experiencing similar ups, downs, trials and tribulations.

Sadly there are a few, and it is only a few, that take great delight in for want of a better phrase "winding up" these so called newbies.

Just because my experiences of the UK are not your experiences does not make my viewpoint or position any less valid than your experiences. I have been around forums for many a year and have moderated a fair few too and in all my time on the internet I have never met a bunch of people quite like this. I have long since grown a thick skin and am confident and secure enough (usually) to not take much notice but I know for a fact that there are others that aren't.

Why on earth people can't just live and let live is beyond me. I have never understood what kick people get out of goading and belittling people. This amounts to little more than playground bullying or school gate politics, of which I have very little time for either.

I do not profess to be a fountain of knowledge on anything at all and am always mindful that within this "community" as with any community there are good people and bad people, people I am drawn too, and those that instinctively I'm not, there are academics and intellectuals but there are also those that aren't and there are many different religious and political beliefs. I therefore choose to address people on the internet with the respect and courtesy that I would in real life and do you know, it would be nice to be treated the same.

As I said in previous posts, if you aren't interested in the subject matter or if you disagree then it is really easy to ignore and not read.

Another great example is that poor woman that came looking for support about her disabled son and was ridiculed and effectively called a liar, when really all she needed was help and support in a very desperate situation for herself and her son. Who are we to judge others - if you think she is a troll - it is quite simple don't answer, because by putting your thoughts out there others jump on the band wagon and before you know it there are people that could have just had something useful to contribute but would have been scared away.

I am sorry if you don't share my views and opinions but I will *not* be bullied out of a place where despite a few there are some really top notch people and a great resource.


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