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Old Jun 6th 2012, 3:47 pm
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Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 4:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?
Good question. Wonder if it's the same if a woman says she's on the pill when in fatc she isn't?

Who in their right mind does shit like that (both sides) anyway
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 4:13 pm
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It would be if they transmitted aids or hiv. I am sure that this has been proven in court already.
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 4:26 pm
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It would be if they transmitted aids or hiv. I am sure that this has been proven in court already.
What if they became pregnant?
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 4:29 pm
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I'm asking because a guy (craig hutchinson) has been found guilty of this in NS. In that case, he poked holes in the condoms and his girlfriend got pregnant when she didn't want to be.

However, the question is now being asked about whether a woman who did the same thing - lied about being on the pill, etc - could also be charged with sexual assault. "They" (talking heads, CBC) are saying this could have wide-ranging implications.

I lurk on a mothering board sometimes, it's surprising how many women admit to doing this kind of thing even if they know their partner isn't keen on a child.

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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?
Some guy was charged and found to be guilty of this in NS, so presumably it must be...
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Originally Posted by iaink
Some guy was charged and found to be guilty of this in NS, so presumably it must be...
So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?
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I'm not sure I would use the term "assault" - not sure what I would use "deception" maybe.
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?
Seems somewhat odd. Its a breech of trust for sure, but I dont suppose there are too many laws that can be brought to bare. If the intent was to cause illness or suffering then I guess its assault. Based on my wifes 2nd pregnancy same rules probably apply for pregnancy!

Without knowing the circumstances at all, on the surface it seems odd to me that a personal relationship issue like this was dragged into the arena of law and order at all, but whaddaiknow.

Surely if kids, or the absence of them from the relationship, was as important as all that then they should have been relying on something beyond just condoms anyway, which are not exactly 100% reliable.

Did the mother have an abortion do you know?

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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?
I wouldn't call it sexual assault as she is allowing the (sex)act to take place, but I would call it some kind of assault/harm.
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 5:01 pm
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Originally Posted by iaink
Seems somewhat odd. Its a breech of trust for sure, but I dont suppose there are too many laws that can be brought to bare. If the intent was to cause illness or suffering then I guess its assault. Based on my wifes 2nd pregnancy same rules probably apply for pregnancy!

Without knowing the circumstances at all, on the surface it seems odd to me that a personal relationship issue like this was dragged into the arena of law and order at all, but whaddaiknow.

Surely if kids, or the absence of them from the relationship, was as important as all that then they should have been relying on something beyond just condoms anyway, which are not exactly 100% reliable.

Did the mother have an abortion do you know?
She did. Then he told her what he'd done and she went to the police.
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Death Penalty I say.
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Originally Posted by Kiwilass
So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?
No different from moron in Hamilton ONt recently found guilty of infecting women with the HIV virus, he didn't feel the need to tell them before shagging them
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i don't mind if it's a yes or no answer or a long answer or a witty remark
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Old Jun 6th 2012, 5:11 pm
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It's assault with a loaded.weapon and he should have a long, stiff, stretch inside coming to him. Oer Mrs.

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