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ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2012 3:47 am

Is this sexual assault?
 
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?

el_richo Jun 6th 2012 4:04 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 10103809)
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?

Good question. Wonder if it's the same if a woman says she's on the pill when in fatc she isn't?

Who in their right mind does shit like that (both sides) anyway :confused:

magnumpi Jun 6th 2012 4:13 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
It would be if they transmitted aids or hiv. I am sure that this has been proven in court already.

el_richo Jun 6th 2012 4:26 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 10103868)
It would be if they transmitted aids or hiv. I am sure that this has been proven in court already.

What if they became pregnant?

ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2012 4:29 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
I'm asking because a guy (craig hutchinson) has been found guilty of this in NS. In that case, he poked holes in the condoms and his girlfriend got pregnant when she didn't want to be.

However, the question is now being asked about whether a woman who did the same thing - lied about being on the pill, etc - could also be charged with sexual assault. "They" (talking heads, CBC) are saying this could have wide-ranging implications.

I lurk on a mothering board sometimes, it's surprising how many women admit to doing this kind of thing even if they know their partner isn't keen on a child.

iaink Jun 6th 2012 4:31 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 10103809)
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?

Some guy was charged and found to be guilty of this in NS, so presumably it must be...

ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2012 4:33 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10103897)
Some guy was charged and found to be guilty of this in NS, so presumably it must be...

So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?

Geordie Lass Jun 6th 2012 4:41 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
I'm not sure I would use the term "assault" - not sure what I would use "deception" maybe. :blink::confused:

iaink Jun 6th 2012 4:48 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 10103901)
So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?

Seems somewhat odd. Its a breech of trust for sure, but I dont suppose there are too many laws that can be brought to bare. If the intent was to cause illness or suffering then I guess its assault. Based on my wifes 2nd pregnancy same rules probably apply for pregnancy!

Without knowing the circumstances at all, on the surface it seems odd to me that a personal relationship issue like this was dragged into the arena of law and order at all, but whaddaiknow.

Surely if kids, or the absence of them from the relationship, was as important as all that then they should have been relying on something beyond just condoms anyway, which are not exactly 100% reliable.

Did the mother have an abortion do you know?

Piff Poff Jun 6th 2012 4:59 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 10103809)
Is it sexual assault to poke holes in the condoms, thereby increasing chance of pregnancy/disease, without telling your partner?

I wouldn't call it sexual assault as she is allowing the (sex)act to take place, but I would call it some kind of assault/harm.

ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2012 5:01 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10103921)
Seems somewhat odd. Its a breech of trust for sure, but I dont suppose there are too many laws that can be brought to bare. If the intent was to cause illness or suffering then I guess its assault. Based on my wifes 2nd pregnancy same rules probably apply for pregnancy!

Without knowing the circumstances at all, on the surface it seems odd to me that a personal relationship issue like this was dragged into the arena of law and order at all, but whaddaiknow.

Surely if kids, or the absence of them from the relationship, was as important as all that then they should have been relying on something beyond just condoms anyway, which are not exactly 100% reliable.

Did the mother have an abortion do you know?

She did. Then he told her what he'd done and she went to the police.

Tangram Jun 6th 2012 5:01 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
Death Penalty I say.

ultrarunner Jun 6th 2012 5:04 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 

Originally Posted by Kiwilass (Post 10103901)
So what's your opinion? do you think it's the right decision?

No different from moron in Hamilton ONt recently found guilty of infecting women with the HIV virus, he didn't feel the need to tell them before shagging them

ExKiwilass Jun 6th 2012 5:06 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
i don't mind if it's a yes or no answer or a long answer or a witty remark ;)

magnumpi Jun 6th 2012 5:11 am

Re: Is this sexual assault?
 
It's assault with a loaded.weapon and he should have a long, stiff, stretch inside coming to him. Oer Mrs.


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