The Secrecy continues
Jan 12th 2024, 7:53 pm
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The Secrecy continues
It goes on
Two different CBC reports.
Ambulances diverted from Moncton Hospital during 'critical overcapacity' in ER
Why is it so important to not say how many?
1/3 of hospital patients are waiting for long-term care, Horizon CEO says
Why?
Why not?
Two different CBC reports.
Ambulances diverted from Moncton Hospital during 'critical overcapacity' in ER
An undisclosed number of patients being transported by ambulance to the Moncton Hospital had to be rerouted to the Dr. Georges-L.-Dumont University Hospital Centre this week because of "critical overcapacity" in the emergency department, Horizon Health officials have confirmed.
"A certain number" of ambulances were diverted over a 24-hour period Tuesday into Wednesday "due to critical capacity challenges," Christa Wheeler-Thorne, executive director of the Moncton Hospital, said in an emailed statement Wednesday.
She did not say how many ambulances, or how much longer patients had to wait to receive care but did note the situation has since "stabilized."
"A certain number" of ambulances were diverted over a 24-hour period Tuesday into Wednesday "due to critical capacity challenges," Christa Wheeler-Thorne, executive director of the Moncton Hospital, said in an emailed statement Wednesday.
She did not say how many ambulances, or how much longer patients had to wait to receive care but did note the situation has since "stabilized."
1/3 of hospital patients are waiting for long-term care, Horizon CEO says
Some of the steps Horizon has taken to improve wait times and capacity at its hospitals include...the Moncton Hospital, 24 new beds have been opened. "These beds are being placed wherever we can find space, including non-traditional care settings in the hospital," Horizon spokesperson Kris McDavid told CBC. He declined to provide examples
The head of Horizon Health Network says they're making progress to improve wait times (but)...did not say what the initiatives being worked on include.
Jan 17th 2024, 2:18 pm
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Re: The Secrecy continues
Good idea. But it shouldn't need one. At least not yet. One of the articles appeared to be a press conference and the other an emailed statement.
An organisation like CBC should be following that up. A question at the press conference and a follow up email would do it.
The FOI site suggests an official request should really be a last resort thing.
It's as if CBC is conditioned into being grateful for tidbits dished out.
I've emailed CBC to ask them if they are following up by further questioning or a FOI request.
An organisation like CBC should be following that up. A question at the press conference and a follow up email would do it.
The FOI site suggests an official request should really be a last resort thing.
It's as if CBC is conditioned into being grateful for tidbits dished out.
I've emailed CBC to ask them if they are following up by further questioning or a FOI request.
Jan 17th 2024, 4:35 pm
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Re: The Secrecy continues
You seem to have inferred a conspiracy/ cover-up, when it is possible that the spokesman just wasn't given the information. And there may be some uncertainty in what the data actually means - maybe X ambulances were diverted but only Y (a number less than X) were diverted because there were no beds, because of a need to have at least Z beds available locally at all times. So for example patients with non-life-threating injuries were diverted even though in theory they could have been admitted to the local hospital.
There msy also be related staffing issues e.g. You have 20 beds but only usually expect 10-12 to be occupied, and therefore have staffing (doctors and nurses) to handle upto say 16 occupied beds, then you might divert some patients because you don't have the staffing capacity to handle all patients if all beds were occupied.
There msy also be related staffing issues e.g. You have 20 beds but only usually expect 10-12 to be occupied, and therefore have staffing (doctors and nurses) to handle upto say 16 occupied beds, then you might divert some patients because you don't have the staffing capacity to handle all patients if all beds were occupied.
Jan 17th 2024, 5:51 pm
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Re: The Secrecy continues
No, not a cover up, just excessive secrecy. It's rife in this province. If you look at the thread the first post links to there are tons of examples.
People here with a bit of knowledge of something just love to say something and then enjoy the power of withholding more.
"I've got a secret and I'm not telling you."
It's not just me that thinks this going by the cartoon in the local paper from the other thread.
People here with a bit of knowledge of something just love to say something and then enjoy the power of withholding more.
"I've got a secret and I'm not telling you."
It's not just me that thinks this going by the cartoon in the local paper from the other thread.
Jan 19th 2024, 7:45 pm
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Re: The Secrecy continues
Just reading about a large compensation payout to the Health Authority CEO who was dismissed by New Brunswick's Premier in a shroud of secrecy 4 months into a 5 year contract.
It reminded me that of the last two Chief Medical Officers in the province, one was very publicly removed for reasons kept secret along with the hush money pay out made that took court action to reveal and the latest was suddenly withdrawn from public appearances, allegedly ostracised, seemingly because she wouldn't back the Premier's decision to remove all the Covid measures - which has since led to the province becoming the Covid death centre of North America - and she has been eased out prevented from speaking, possibly an element of self preservation; the province having learned from its mistakes with the previous CMO.
It reminded me that of the last two Chief Medical Officers in the province, one was very publicly removed for reasons kept secret along with the hush money pay out made that took court action to reveal and the latest was suddenly withdrawn from public appearances, allegedly ostracised, seemingly because she wouldn't back the Premier's decision to remove all the Covid measures - which has since led to the province becoming the Covid death centre of North America - and she has been eased out prevented from speaking, possibly an element of self preservation; the province having learned from its mistakes with the previous CMO.
Feb 12th 2024, 2:35 pm
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Re: The Secrecy continues
Ahem...
New Brunswick government remains too secretive: ombud
A previous Globe and Mail report
New Brunswick’s access regime among the most restrictive in Canada, Globe audit finds
I rest my case
New Brunswick government remains too secretive: ombud
“There are some provisions in the act that are unique to New Brunswick or restrictive compared to what exists in other jurisdictions,” she told the politicians in her first appearance before the committee that examines reports produced by independent legislative officers.
“So, if that’s baked into your legislation, then more information is going to be protected from disclosure, then that obviously drives the amount of disclosure that’s provided to applicants.”
Her comments lent weight to opposition politicians and journalists who have complained about running into roadblocks when trying to find more details about government decisions.
“So, if that’s baked into your legislation, then more information is going to be protected from disclosure, then that obviously drives the amount of disclosure that’s provided to applicants.”
Her comments lent weight to opposition politicians and journalists who have complained about running into roadblocks when trying to find more details about government decisions.
New Brunswick’s access regime among the most restrictive in Canada, Globe audit finds
I rest my case
