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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 10269389)
My personal experience of meeting a wiccan priest and I use the term loosely [i]self professed micro brewer [/] the main reason I knew him, was he made many claims to the origin going back to Celtic and druidic roots and that it was an ancient religion.
In the time I knew him, hecarefully used this rhetoric and BS to get into the knickers of many young women when they joined this so called ancient and natural religion, needless to say that coven had a relatively high turnover as he happily use his religious position to justify his behavior |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 10269516)
I find it surprising that anyone self identifies as a Pagan, as it is really a negative view..
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 10269516)
I consider pagan to mean religions not "of the book", a word describing what they are not, rather than what they are. I find it surprising that anyone self identifies as a Pagan, as it is really a negative view.
On the matter of establishing right from wrong in a non religious society this can just as easily be done through ethics as it can through religion. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10269496)
Also the majority of our laws are the result of various religious outlooks over the years too.
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by JonboyE
(Post 10269555)
On the matter of establishing right from wrong in a non religious society this can just as easily be done through ethics as it can through religion.
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 10269523)
You talk of "religion" as if its something other that the actions of men, but whether there is a god or not, religion is a man made construct, and as such reflects the failings and weaknesses of humanity as well as the strengths.
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by kimilseung
(Post 10269516)
I consider pagan to mean religions not "of the book", a word describing what they are not, rather than what they are. I find it surprising that anyone self identifies as a Pagan, as it is really a negative view.
Though I think some use it as a catch all, because they are not really sure what they are. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 10269385)
How do you define right and wrong?
Edit: The non facetious answer is that it probably evolved. There are evolutionary advantages to empathy and one obvious side of empathy + intelligence is morality. I say probably because I doubt anyone really knows for sure - however just because something is unknown doesn't mean that something needs to be made up to explain it. It can just be unknown until such point as science puts forward a hypothesis that is then verified by evidence. I'm not an evolutionary biologist - so I can't comment on the "state of the art" here. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
1. Does anybody know how many Satanists we have serving time in Canada?
2. Do they need representation or is this just another scheme thought up by the inmates to screw around with the system as we all know the inmates would never try to abuse the system with frivolous complaints. 3. How come most inmates only find religious beliefs when its parole time. Sure the odd one is serious but if they are serious about finding a God or whatever and how they are a changed and different person how come 6 months later they are back in prison? 4. Ive attended prison religious services and believe me they aint there to learn about the Bible, Koran or whatever unless the plotting of drug deals are mentioned in those books. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by MikeUK
(Post 10269389)
My personal experience of meeting a wiccan priest and I use the term loosely [i]self professed micro brewer [/] the main reason I knew him, was he made many claims to the origin going back to Celtic and druidic roots and that it was an ancient religion.
In the time I knew him, hecarefully used this rhetoric and BS to get into the knickers of many young women when they joined this so called ancient and natural religion, needless to say that coven had a relatively high turnover as he happily use his religious position to justify his behavior
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian
(Post 10270215)
1. Does anybody know how many Satanists we have serving time in Canada?
2. Do they need representation or is this just another scheme thought up by the inmates to screw around with the system as we all know the inmates would never try to abuse the system with frivolous complaints. 3. How come most inmates only find religious beliefs when its parole time. Sure the odd one is serious but if they are serious about finding a God or whatever and how they are a changed and different person how come 6 months later they are back in prison? 4. Ive attended prison religious services and believe me they aint there to learn about the Bible, Koran or whatever unless the plotting of drug deals are mentioned in those books. We are NOT Satanists. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10270277)
Most religions have been used in this way by unscrupulous peiopkle at some point in time.You cannot condemn all believers because of one idiot.
The original article is about the Wiccan religion. We are NOT Satanists. Im sure the thread title is Satanists in prisons but it may read Stalanists in prison hang on I will get my specs to make sure. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10270277)
Most religions have been used in this way by unscrupulous peiopkle at some point in time.You cannot condemn all believers because of one idiot.
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 10269798)
Why even bother? - lawyers will only **** it up for everyone.
Interesting topic this. Seems like there is a problem with spending money on wicka priests to look after all the "pretentious hipster wackos" isn't that like saying the RC priests are looking after and trying to recruit all the pedophiles in prison ? I'd be more worried when the Pastafarians get a hold of this and start recruiting all the pasta eaters in prison. It's gonna costs the taxpayer thousands in purchasing strainers, sieves, colanders for all their new recruits http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523 Freedom of religion - gotta love it. |
Re: Satanists in prisons
Originally Posted by Jingsamichty
(Post 10270305)
But should the government/taxpayer indulge all idiots because of one believer?
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Re: Satanists in prisons
Any chance you can turn some forum members into newts? :nod:
Originally Posted by Pollyana
(Post 10270277)
The original article is about the Wiccan religion.
We are NOT Satanists. |
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