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Shard Nov 8th 2013 1:19 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10982085)
As mayor hes also "Chief Magistrate" of Torono

Im guessing the people who framed the laws never suspected that these circumstances would apply to an elected mayor, so there is no legal framework to give him the boot. We must rely on either his conscience or the electorate to see to his departure. Fat chance of the former, slim chance of the later.

How much support does he have amongst the electorate (%, roughly)? Would the majority of Torontonians like to see him go?

iaink Nov 8th 2013 1:53 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10982094)
How much support does he have amongst the electorate (%, roughly)? Would the majority of Torontonians like to see him go?

Hes slipped slightly in the last day or three to about 38%, but thats still higher than his nearest declared rival. However 60% also think he should get some help. To put that in perspective Barack Obama has a 38% approval rating.

None of which really matters if he toughs it out until next October when the next election is scheduled. By that point much of this will have escaped the electorates short term memory, and the usual political incentives will apply (choosing between tax savings and service levels).

Shard Nov 8th 2013 2:00 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10982147)
Hes slipped slightly in the last day or three to about 38%, but thats still higher than his nearest declared rival. However 60% also think he should get some help. To out that in perspective Barack Obama has a 38% approval rating.

None of which really matters if he toughs it out until next October when the next election is scheduled. By that point much of this will have escaped the electorates short term memory, and the usual political incentives will apply (choosing between tax savings and service levels).

There ought to be enough public pressure for him to step down. I don't have any knowledge of Toronto politics, but it seems to me that an opposing faction with backbone could organise some kind of protest to "persuade" him to resign. He is such an embarrassment to Canada, let alone Toronto.

iaink Nov 8th 2013 2:07 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10982151)
There ought to be enough public pressure for him to step down. I don't have any knowledge of Toronto politics, but it seems to me that an opposing faction with backbone could organise some kind of protest to "persuade" him to resign. He is such an embarrassment to Canada, let alone Toronto.

Why would he cave to public pressure? He knows he doesn't legally have to stand aside, so why wouldn't he hold out until the election? He has nothing to gain and little to loose at this point, and the electorate has a woefully short memory when it comes to someone promising reduced taxes.

The threat wont come from the opposition, but I could see someone on his side of the fence seing this as an opportunity to "push him under the bus" and they may organize a coup behind his back from within his own followers and take his place.

Shard Nov 8th 2013 2:16 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by iaink (Post 10982159)
Why would he cave to public pressure? He knows he doesn't legally have to stand aside, so why wouldn't he hold out until the election? He has nothing to gain and little to loose at this point, and the electorate has a woefully short memory when it comes to someone promising reduced taxes.

The threat wont come from the opposition, but I could see someone on his side of the fence seing this as an opportunity to "push him under the bus" and they may organize a coup behind his back from within his own followers and take his place.

Well the idea is the public put the pressure on the other civic leaders (whether from within his party or the opposition) to do something to effect his replacement. Refusing to show up to meetings might be a starting point. It can be done.

ExKiwilass Nov 8th 2013 2:25 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 10981260)
So does no-one else think that it might be a blast to have a night out on the piss with him then ? :)

no cos he's an angry drunk. that's no fun.

iaink Nov 8th 2013 2:31 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10982167)
Well the idea is the public put the pressure on the other civic leaders (whether from within his party or the opposition) to do something to effect his replacement. Refusing to show up to meetings might be a starting point. It can be done.

That would require the public to not be totally apathetic about local politics...

Oink Nov 8th 2013 2:32 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by nldfc (Post 10981260)
So does no-one else think that it might be a blast to have a night out on the piss with him then ? :)

I have, well not him exactly, but a few facsimiles of him. The key is to judge when to make your escape in a cab before the insanity takes a hold of them. :)

Former Lancastrian Nov 8th 2013 2:38 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 
Oh come on folks anyone can see in the new video Rob Ford is doing an impression of Randy Macho Man Savage or Hulk Hogan as to what he is going to do with his next opponent.

How long Nov 8th 2013 2:47 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 10981408)
**** FFS.

My deepest apo logies I meant to write *****, , **** was a bit wankerish :thumbdown:

How long Nov 8th 2013 2:49 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10982094)
electorate (%, roughly)? Would the majority of Torontonians like to see him go?

Out on the piss, the press certainly would.

BristolUK Nov 8th 2013 4:41 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 
If they ever want to resurrect The Sopranos, they know who to turn to for the part.

Oink Nov 8th 2013 4:44 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10982375)
If they ever want to resurrect The Sopranos, they know who to turn to for the part.

Rob Ford's Italian?

Shard Nov 8th 2013 4:46 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10982375)
If they ever want to resurrect The Sopranos, they know who to turn to for the part.

Apart from a rough similarity in size, I see no similarity in person whatsoever.

caretaker Nov 8th 2013 4:49 am

Re: Rob Ford Again
 
I'm curious about what's left - there's one more video... The city officials that are barking for his head represent their electorate so I'd be surprised if his standing in the polls is quite as good as it looks when it comes to voting. I wonder if there's any work being done on a reality tv series 'The Fords', the family seems to have enough dysfunctional elements to make it work, and if Novocastrian's right about murder-related charges in the offing, (damn, that's clever!), things could get racy.


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