Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
#46
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
Well, yeah, except they're not Alberta they're BC. It's a meaningless comment. It's like saying they're are places in Saskatchewan that are just like Ontario.
However, I'm now more curious about bc-guy's minority grouping, as it surprises me that he is somewhat nervous about Albertans. Has he seen who Calgary voted in as mayor.
However, I'm now more curious about bc-guy's minority grouping, as it surprises me that he is somewhat nervous about Albertans. Has he seen who Calgary voted in as mayor.
#47
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
He's black, so if he moved into a small or medium sized town it could mean his family and the doctor may be the only people of colour there. Years ago our receptionist at work and her husband turned down an apprenticeship offer he had in north central Saskatchewan for that reason. An example of internal bias: Upper Canada vs District of Assiniboia, that's almost offensive - Ontarians are typically far more concieted and 'provincial', secure in the belief that they are somehow superior to other Canadians and that their extra 200 years of colonisation gives them the right to declare themselves the centre of Canada if not the universe (look at the friggin' map!). Support for western secession still exists. The unspoiled areas of the shield make Ontario enviable, the filthy industrial cesspit of the golden horseshoe makes it economically viable, but the fat bastards in Ottawa eating my food and the artsy Torontonians who just assume they're progressive make them odious to some westerners. Even all the stage directors from Toronto Globe Theatre hired to work here had the same sickening phony accent. Some of them were nice, but that drawl was still there.
Glad to see my example put things into perspective.
#48
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
So you understand then? The difference between small towns in Canada east of Winnipeg and small towns west of Winnipeg is that there are probably more black people in the eastern towns than the west. I know a man who was raised in a foster family in Brandon, Manitoba and he was the only black person in the entire city (adopted into a white family). Until we moved to Regina in 1964 the only black people I'd seen in my life were train porters and the black kids I met here were here because their dad was a football player. There was one black girl in my high school graduating class (1972) in the biggest newest school in town. It's not like Ontario or Quebec or Nova Scotia or Newfoundland where there were established black populations or like anywhere near a seaport. The only black people who lived in Saskatchewan (that I ever heard of) until after the depression was an extended family of escaped slaves who squatted then homesteaded on farmland northwest of the Battlefords. That comes from RD Symons' account of his time as game warden at Meota.
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#49
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Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
Are you a blue, bisexual crocodile or something?
Believe it or not, I doubt that you will find Albertans any more racist than you will find any other Canadians.
I live in rural Alberta. Some, like you, may believe that I live in redneck central. The school my youngest child goes to has ~96 children. Kindergarten to grade 8. There are black, brown, white, yellow and red (to use a silly description) pupils. They all mix as easily as I witnessed children mix at school in all the areas of England that I lived in.
Alberta is a very big place compared to, let's say, England. Tarring all Albertans with the same brush makes as much sense as saying that all English people are football hooligans because one once saw a documentary about English football hooligans.
Believe it or not, I doubt that you will find Albertans any more racist than you will find any other Canadians.
I live in rural Alberta. Some, like you, may believe that I live in redneck central. The school my youngest child goes to has ~96 children. Kindergarten to grade 8. There are black, brown, white, yellow and red (to use a silly description) pupils. They all mix as easily as I witnessed children mix at school in all the areas of England that I lived in.
Alberta is a very big place compared to, let's say, England. Tarring all Albertans with the same brush makes as much sense as saying that all English people are football hooligans because one once saw a documentary about English football hooligans.
#50
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
So you understand then? The difference between small towns in Canada east of Winnipeg and small towns west of Winnipeg is that may be more black people in the eastern towns than the west. I know a man who was raised in a foster family in Brandon, Manitoba and he was the only black person in the entire city (adopted into a white family). Until we moved to Regina in 1964 the only black people I'd seen in my life were train porters and the black kids I met here were here because their dad was a football player. It's not like Ontario or Quebec or Nova Scotia or Newfoundland where they were established. The only black people who lived in Saskatchewan (afaik) until after the depression was an extended family of escaped slaves who squatted then homesteaded on farmland northwest of the Battlefords. That comes from RD Symons' account of his time as game warden at Meota.
#51
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Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
He's black, so if he moved into a small or medium sized town it could mean his family and the doctor may be the only people of colour there. Years ago our receptionist at work and her husband turned down an apprenticeship offer he had in north central Saskatchewan for that reason. An example of internal bias: Upper Canada vs District of Assiniboia, that's almost offensive - Ontarians are typically far more concieted and 'provincial', secure in the belief that they are somehow superior to other Canadians and that their extra 200 years of colonisation gives them the right to declare themselves the centre of Canada if not the universe (look at the friggin' map!). Support for western secession still exists. The unspoiled areas of the shield make Ontario enviable, the filthy industrial cesspit of the golden horseshoe makes it economically viable, but the fat bastards in Ottawa eating my food and the artsy Torontonians who just assume they're progressive make them odious to some westerners. Even all the stage directors from Toronto Globe Theatre hired to work here had the same sickening phony accent. Some of them were nice, but that drawl was still there.
#52
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
Probably not unless you're one of the only three in town who stand out (BC Guy, the doctor, and his wife). At the end of the day whether you understand or not isn't important and may not even be possible.
#53
Re: Right or wrong? Discriminatory or not?
If you are the sole or one of few minority members in a small community the locals probably have to overcome their pre-concieved ideas about you as well but it sounds like you make friends easily enough wherever you go.