having been here 1 glorious year in edmonton and only having used public transport. i had formed some very strong views abt driving.

1/ no way was queuing for a coffe at tim hortons for 20 mins at the drive thru a good idea for the enviroment

2/ people who left their engines idling whilst they shopped should be hot

3/ and as for people who warmed their cars up for 30 mins before getting in it well !!!!!!!!!!

BUT having owned a car now for just 7 days i may be back peddling some what (hypocrite) as my baby (called betty boop) has a REMOTE STARTER

i justify it to my self as " well it is -40 or below" lol

any one else in conflict ????

If you still believe numbers one and two to be true then there should be no conflict for number three. There is no justification.

I like mine in dark car parks at night - I can start the car from the other side, and it gives the impression there's someone waiting in the vehicle for me

But I mainly want a toasty bum when I get in it on frosty mornings

I don't want to know what you get up to with homeless people.

ooog great idea, hadnt thought abt that, that will ease my conscience (however u spell it) a bit

Only if they have their heater on "HIGH"

In Toronto there is a by law that if you have your engine idling for more than 3 minutes you're eligible for a rather hefty fine. This is of course if there is a traffic officer around to book you on it, but for those that are caught it's nasty. A good by-law I think, no reason to have it idling for that length of time really.

ok ok smarty pants "shot" lol

The wife has a remote starter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
me!

LOL LUCKY LADY, mines out on the road trucking alot

When its 35 below its nice to be able to warm your car up from inside the house. I have never let my car warm up for more than about 5 minutes. On the other hand, my husband used to drive the company van and I bet he would let the damn thing run for 20 minutes before he left! I thought it was a waste of gas and bad for the environment.

You should all buy one of those little plug into your ciggy lighter thingy heaters... They provide instant heat.

.... and in dark car parks at night!

That is why I LOVE my heated seats, too impaticent to wait for the car to warm up!