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Shard Dec 7th 2019 8:10 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12775461)
Ahhh....Write out 100 times.
Must not drink wine and read more carefully!!!!!
Tail between legs now.

Quite a surprising situation, though. I've always assumed that if I happened to mix up numbers on a transfer the bank would reconcile it. I think a lot of people will be checking sort codes and accounts much more carefully!

caretaker Dec 7th 2019 10:26 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12775461)
Must not drink wine and read more carefully!!!!!

Nonsense! Never turn your back on wine. Think of all the great literature that would never have been written if not for wine. I refuse to be responsible for this.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 8th 2019 6:34 am

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Another medication being looked into for possible raised levels of NDMA this time Metformin.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/metfo...nada-1.5386692

I think one reason I am sleepy all the time, I have been keeping a note pad and pen next to the bed, and keeping track of when I wake up, well when I wake up enough to grab the pen and notepad, but over the last week, I wake up on average 5-7 times per night, I think while I may on paper get 8 hours sleep going to bed at midnight and waking at 8am, but I don't think I am actually getting that much sleep as I wake up so much, I have a hard time staying asleep, every little noise wakes me up it seems.

Rete Dec 8th 2019 8:10 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12775044)
The mom creates the issues, her now young adult children are likely to be deported to the US, but she gets to stay in Canada for the time being. Beyond being born in the US, the kids appear to have no ties, family in the US.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...box=1575644979

Why are both children being deported to the US? Only one is a US Citizen. The oldest is not. He was born in Bangladesh, not the US, so not a US Citizen. In reality, once at the border, the oldest child will be taken aside and into custody and held by US immigration.

Where is the biological father of these two children?

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 8th 2019 8:18 am

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Article says both children hold US Citizenship.

"But their application, and an appeal, were rejected, largely because the adjudicators felt the family could safely move to the United States, where Shuruvi and Redwan were citizens and Nipa had a green card."




Originally Posted by Rete (Post 12775728)
Why are both children being deported to the US? Only one is a US Citizen. The oldest is not. He was born in Bangladesh, not the US, so not a US Citizen. In reality, once at the border, the oldest child will be taken aside and into custody and held by US immigration.

Where is the biological father of these two children?


BristolUK Dec 8th 2019 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12775441)
Perhaps the legal bods out there can offer some enlightenment:
1. Does he stand a good chance of getting his money back?
2. Could the wrong recipient face any legal issues if he continues to keep the cash?
3. Could the bank be liable for any costs for not cross checking account name against bank account number or will bank no-fault be hidden within small print?
Not a small amount to be concerned about at his age.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-new...ioner-21043469

I didn't read that report but I saw it in the Guardian. Cost him about £46k in legal fees to get it back and the bank agreed to refund the legal fees - after Guardian intervention.

UK banks apparently don't check the name against the number but they agreed to do so in future and that future has been delayed from this year to next year.

I always believed that receiving money that you were clearly not due - and then spending it - was theft, or some other criminal offence. ie one that wouldn't require civil action to recover it.

Naively I would have expected the bank to take it back presumably informing the other party and that in the event the other party says 'no' like this one apparently did, to then pass the details on to the police. I'd then expect a charge of theft or whatever if not refunding the money.

Paging AC...


scrubbedexpat091 Dec 8th 2019 1:29 pm

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Kind of surprised its not considered theft or that police were not involved. Dunno what the law is in the UK.

Back in September a US bank made an error and deposited 120,000 into the wrong account, the bank eventually realized the mistake however, only problem the couple spent most of the money, so put them into a 107,000 over-draft. The couple started to ignore the bank, and bank must have contacted police who arrested them and charged with felony theft.

https://wnep.com/2019/09/06/state-po...-bank-account/





Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12775800)
I didn't read that report but I saw it in the Guardian. Cost him about £46k in legal fees to get it back and the bank agreed to refund the legal fees - after Guardian intervention.

UK banks apparently don't check the name against the number but they agreed to do so in future and that future has been delayed from this year to next year.

I always believed that receiving money that you were clearly not due - and then spending it - was theft, or some other criminal offence. ie one that wouldn't require civil action to recover it.

Naively I would have expected the bank to take it back presumably informing the other party and that in the event the other party says 'no' like this one apparently did, to then pass the details on to the police. I'd then expect a charge of theft or whatever if not refunding the money.

Paging AC...


spouse of scouse Dec 8th 2019 2:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12775807)
Kind of surprised its not considered theft or that police were not involved. Dunno what the law is in the UK.

Back in September a US bank made an error and deposited 120,000 into the wrong account, the bank eventually realized the mistake however, only problem the couple spent most of the money, so put them into a 107,000 over-draft. The couple started to ignore the bank, and bank must have contacted police who arrested them and charged with felony theft.

Can't keep it in the UK either
https://www.money.co.uk/guides/can-y...nk-account.htm

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 8th 2019 2:28 pm

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I had hunch you couldn't but not familiar with how things work there.



Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12775813)


BristolUK Dec 9th 2019 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12775813)

This is the mystery though. According to the guardian report the bank contacted the recipient, he refused to pay it back or allow them to take it back and the bank washed its hands, used the confidentiality argument for not releasing the details of the recipient and offered a £25 compensation (for the loss of £193,000).

The customer who should have had the money had to hire legal representation to get the bank to freeze the account of the person who got the deposit and then further legal costs were needed to get the deposit back. £46k in all I think were the fees.

It sounded like the police had zero involvement. No charges at all. :unsure:

Without the doggedness of the customer, he'd have lost his inheritance and the other guy would have gained it.

spouse of scouse Dec 9th 2019 5:07 pm

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12776410)
This is the mystery though. According to the guardian report the bank contacted the recipient, he refused to pay it back or allow them to take it back and the bank washed its hands, used the confidentiality argument for not releasing the details of the recipient and offered a £25 compensation (for the loss of £193,000).

The customer who should have had the money had to hire legal representation to get the bank to freeze the account of the person who got the deposit and then further legal costs were needed to get the deposit back. £46k in all I think were the fees.

It sounded like the police had zero involvement. No charges at all. :unsure:

Without the doggedness of the customer, he'd have lost his inheritance and the other guy would have gained it.

I've just read the Guardian report again -

No one is legally entitled to keep money that has been wrongfully credited to their account. But compelling them to return the money, particularly if it is spent, is another matter. Barclays, in common with other banks, will not even provide the name of the person who has received the cash, unless it is instructed by a court.

So yes, it sounds like it's a civil matter rather than a criminal one. Which of course means you have to take legal action yourself. Very wrong, it's the same as stealing/robbery and should be a criminal offence.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 9th 2019 7:13 pm

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This really sucks for this couple. Went to Thailand and a month into their trip, the man has a bad headache goes to hospital, turns out its a cancerous tumor, they file claim with their travel insurance which is denied due to pre-existing condition, turns out he went to a hospital in Canada with the "flu" and had a headache which was very likely the tumor, but they had no idea at that time it was a tumor but its enough for insurance to declare it pre-existing.

Sounds like he has a fairly limited window to fly back to Canada safely. Air Ambulance was quoted as $265,000.


https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ca...-ago-1.4722084

spouse of scouse Dec 9th 2019 10:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12776497)
This really sucks for this couple. Went to Thailand and a month into their trip, the man has a bad headache goes to hospital, turns out its a cancerous tumor, they file claim with their travel insurance which is denied due to pre-existing condition, turns out he went to a hospital in Canada with the "flu" and had a headache which was very likely the tumor, but they had no idea at that time it was a tumor but its enough for insurance to declare it pre-existing.

Sounds like he has a fairly limited window to fly back to Canada safely. Air Ambulance was quoted as $265,000.


https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/ca...-ago-1.4722084

'Funny', but after ctv news contacted the insurance company, the man's wife got a phone call from them saying that although their claim was 'still under review', they're going to do a medical evac for the couple anyway. Any bloody wonder people hate insurance companies. BTW, I got that info from the man's wife, she's posted it on his Go Fund Me page (link is in the article)

Danny B Dec 10th 2019 1:58 am

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This is very relatable. Especially the haggling over a toaster that is for sale at $1


BEVS Dec 10th 2019 8:02 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12776698)
This is very relatable. Especially the haggling over a toaster that is for sale at $1

True down here in NZ also.
Garage sales were a new concept to us when we arrived here but we have now helped out with a few and the haggling over a $ item is astounding.
We actually have some stuff himself wants to sell but I am putting it off as I think I would have little patience with haggling thing.


scrubbedexpat091 Dec 10th 2019 8:44 am

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Being able to get into the media certainly does seem to help companies do the right thing, also helps get go fund me going... If only everyone had access to the media for help, but media of course picks and chooses so not like its even a viable option for most.

Good they are at least going to get the man home, at least once back home their healthcare will be covered by their provincial plan.


Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12776558)
'Funny', but after ctv news contacted the insurance company, the man's wife got a phone call from them saying that although their claim was 'still under review', they're going to do a medical evac for the couple anyway. Any bloody wonder people hate insurance companies. BTW, I got that info from the man's wife, she's posted it on his Go Fund Me page (link is in the article)


scrubbedexpat091 Dec 10th 2019 11:56 am

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Update: CBSA cancelled the removal order late Sunday evening, so for now they can stay in Canada.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...box=1575954391



Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12775044)
The mom creates the issues, her now young adult children are likely to be deported to the US, but she gets to stay in Canada for the time being. Beyond being born in the US, the kids appear to have no ties, family in the US.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...box=1575644979


spouse of scouse Dec 10th 2019 12:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12776977)
Update: CBSA cancelled the removal order late Sunday evening, so for now they can stay in Canada.

That's good news :thumbup:

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 10th 2019 1:14 pm

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Looks like an Air Ambulance is likely in Thailand now, was due to arrive early Wed local time.Seems his considered has gotten worse so doctors are going to place a tube in his brain to try and reduce swelling and have to wait to see if it works.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/canadian-...sens-1.4723206


Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12776558)
'Funny', but after ctv news contacted the insurance company, the man's wife got a phone call from them saying that although their claim was 'still under review', they're going to do a medical evac for the couple anyway. Any bloody wonder people hate insurance companies. BTW, I got that info from the man's wife, she's posted it on his Go Fund Me page (link is in the article)


Oink Dec 14th 2019 7:50 pm

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https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...43a2dd9626.jpg
“When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
 speaking words of wisdom, no society can legitimately call itself civilized if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means. Let it be.”

caretaker Dec 15th 2019 2:54 am

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The Paper Bag Princess; the story behind the story:
https://www.cbc.ca/radiointeractives...a-happy-ending

BristolUK Dec 15th 2019 9:20 am

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Put our tree up today. 15th Christmas and all the built in/fixed on lights working perfectly as previous years.

Teaandtoday5 Dec 15th 2019 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12779182)
Put our tree up today. 15th Christmas and all the built in/fixed on lights working perfectly as previous years.

is it really Christmas if it’s that easy?

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 15th 2019 10:24 am

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Not bad, not bad at all. 10 days til the big day now.


Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12779182)
Put our tree up today. 15th Christmas and all the built in/fixed on lights working perfectly as previous years.


spouse of scouse Dec 15th 2019 10:28 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12779182)
Put our tree up today. 15th Christmas and all the built in/fixed on lights working perfectly as previous years.

There's your Christmas miracle right there!

Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12779185)


is it really Christmas if it’s that easy?

:lol:

BristolUK Dec 15th 2019 1:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12779185)
is it really Christmas if it’s that easy?

It took a few minutes to find the connecting plugs among the branches if it's any consolation. :rofl:


Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12779198)
There's your Christmas miracle right there!

:lol:

The Fourteen Miracles
(not counting when it was new)
An intriguing title for a book or movie.


caretaker Dec 16th 2019 3:05 am

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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...a8cadf86f.jpeg

Danny B Dec 16th 2019 5:22 am

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https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...783ea708b5.png

Is that really your reg number?

caretaker Dec 16th 2019 6:04 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12779533)
Is that really your reg number?

As if. :rofl: That probably wouldn't stay on my van one night.

Danny B Dec 16th 2019 7:18 am

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Danny B Dec 16th 2019 10:39 am

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Turns out the bird in the video is singer Ellie Goulding. Small world.

https://news.sky.com/story/ellie-gou...lorry-11888548

spouse of scouse Dec 16th 2019 11:31 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12779489)

Someone has a brilliant sense of humour, love it!

spouse of scouse Dec 16th 2019 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12779247)
It took a few minutes to find the connecting plugs among the branches if it's any consolation. :rofl:


The Fourteen Miracles
(not counting when it was new)
An intriguing title for a book or movie.

Ah that's why then, they're from a time when things were built to last. I know that sounds very 'in my day..' but in my experience it's true!

ps I agree about the title, probably best for a book though. Fourteen Miracles would be a hell of a long movie.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 17th 2019 12:47 pm

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A contestant on the price is right won a trip to Prince George, BC, the news report is mildly amusing.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/the-price-is-r...st7RxAXlE9LBjg

spouse of scouse Dec 17th 2019 2:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12780075)
A contestant on the price is right won a trip to Prince George, BC, the news report is mildly amusing.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/the-price-is-r...st7RxAXlE9LBjg

I'll put my hand up to not knowing where Prince George was, but that's to be expected :lol: I just had a quick Google, I wouldn't knock back an all expenses paid trip to there (or anywhere!). The reactions from the locals were funny though.

Entirely different topic - did you get your washing machine fixed?

caretaker Dec 17th 2019 5:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12780075)
A contestant on the price is right won a trip to Prince George, BC, the news report is mildly amusing.

I think having a hotel there called The Prestige Treasure Cove Hotel is funny. Maybe they couldn't afford to give away a stay at Chateau Lake Louise. :lol: My only memory of Prince George is passing through on holidays with my parents when I was maybe 13 or 14 and stopping for a picnic lunch beside a bridge (any place with a picnic table was fair game). I didn't catch any fish in the river, which was wide, fast, and full of grey rocks. That's it, one picture.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 17th 2019 5:36 pm

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Not yet. The developer we rent from sent a repair tech, but the part he needs they don't have in stock so it's been ordered, upside the developer is discounting January rent $100 to cover the costs of having to pay to do laundry which is fair in my view so its not the end of the world, and it wont cost us $100 to do laundry..


Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12780091)
I'll put my hand up to not knowing where Prince George was, but that's to be expected :lol: I just had a quick Google, I wouldn't knock back an all expenses paid trip to there (or anywhere!). The reactions from the locals were funny though.

Entirely different topic - did you get your washing machine fixed?

I've never been, but the report was amusing with the locals, I can't say if the city is good, bad or eh, but it's probably in between eh and bad, I can't say it's top of the list of places I would pay to go, but would go on a free trip no issues, did once look into moving there, rent was cheaper but quality of rentals was rather poor.


Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12780124)
I think having a hotel there called The Prestige Treasure Cove Hotel is funny. Maybe they couldn't afford to give away a stay at Chateau Lake Louise. :lol: My only memory of Prince George is passing through on holidays with my parents when I was maybe 13 or 14 and stopping for a picnic lunch beside a bridge (any place with a picnic table was fair game). I didn't catch any fish in the river, which was wide, fast, and full of grey rocks. That's it, one picture.


caretaker Dec 17th 2019 5:49 pm

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We were on our way to Dawson Creek, pulling a rented tent trailer with our new Chev Biscayne. I can remember what the campground in Dawson Creek looked like, and setting the camper up there, and this sign, which was the big tourist attraction.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...0a9049c259.jpg

Danny B Dec 18th 2019 7:43 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12780075)
A contestant on the price is right won a trip to Prince George, BC, the news report is mildly amusing.

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/the-price-is-r...st7RxAXlE9LBjg

What an awful prize.

BristolUK Dec 18th 2019 10:20 am

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Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12780433)
What an awful prize.

Second prize was two weeks....


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