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Siouxie Mar 23rd 2021 2:57 pm

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Originally Posted by scilly (Post 12987132)
So Harry has got himself a paid job ........... by virtue it seems of being introduced by "a mutual friend" to the CEO of the company.

Well-paying ................ so he shouldn't need any more of Papa's money.

Meghan has also admitted that she got the "we married 3 days before the public show" wrong, that they just exchanged private vows in front of the Archbishop.

That was after their marriage certificate was released, and the former Senior Registrar said she must have been mistaken or didn't understand.

I wonder how he can work in the US without a green card or a O-1A visa? Did the powers that be 'fast track' him?





scilly Mar 23rd 2021 4:20 pm

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Hr might not be "working" in the usual sense .............

maybe using his title to add "glitter" to that Board of Directors, and under the counter payment?????

He was not supposed to use his Royal titles, but that is what is very apparent seemingly on the company's online site.

abner Mar 23rd 2021 5:09 pm

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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 12985676)
Indeed if she is not naive or ignorant, she most definitley has a social gain agenda.... your a smart guy, and even if your anti monarchist republican, whatever.....its pretty plain to see what she is..... Social climber.. and one that doesn't even possess the class to actually do it.

Voluntarily abandoning "royal" status is by definition the opposite of social climbing.

If she was truly a social climber, she wouldn't have pulled the rip-cord this early, and with such finality, and she likely wouldn't have been able to pull Harry out with her.

Rather it seems that she (and Harry) encountered some distasteful and implacable attitudes towards race both inside and (in the Daily Mail particularly) outside the palace walls, with Archie's birth pending. And when the situation didn't materially improve afterwards, they decided to get the hell outta Dodge.

Their children will thank them, even if the royalists will never forgive them.

BEVS Mar 23rd 2021 6:19 pm

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Originally Posted by abner (Post 12987152)
Voluntarily abandoning "royal" status is by definition the opposite of social climbing.

If she was truly a social climber, she wouldn't have pulled the rip-cord this early, and with such finality, and she likely wouldn't have been able to pull Harry out with her.

Rather it seems that she (and Harry) encountered some distasteful and implacable attitudes towards race both inside and (in the Daily Mail particularly) outside the palace walls, with Archie's birth pending. And when the situation didn't materially improve afterwards, they decided to get the hell outta Dodge.

Their children will thank them, even if the royalists will never forgive them.

They didn't abandon 'royal status' though and still haven't. They wanted to and did use HRH on their official website & it still makes use of a crown as part of a logo plus the use of the word royal. It is used as a stepping stone to Archewell and it still refers to them as TRH. There was a grumble when the Queen stated this should not be so - protocol - which does seem to indicate they wanted to retain the HRHs.
A certain standard of royal title was a part of the moan-in interview even though the correct title to their child was conferred but it was rejected . Perhaps as not seen as good enough or perhaps that it did not come with UK taxpayer funded security = money. She indicated that wanted Prince ( not the singer) which is a huge step up & simply was not possible in the close pecking order of senior titles. Surely if they wanted to abandon, they would have abandoned the title trappings and call to be called Mr and Mrs Mountbatten-Windsor. They have not. Even with this new 'appointment' for Harry , he is boldly being referred to as Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex by the company. If they wanted to leave all that behind then that would not be used.

No idea on the social climbing, however to marry into royalty is about as good as it gets on the ladder climbing really. With or without doing the senior royal work , that was the pinnacle unless she married into a first in line to a throne.

I have some big nagging doubts that anyone inside of the palace inner circle would have shown any overt or covert signs of racism They deal with a myriad of nationalities and cultures all the time year in and year out. Likely, just like over the wedding claim and the Archie title grumble , it was something that was misunderstood or misinterpreted. Why Harry did not and had not enlightened his wife before or after the moan-in is a mystery.

I would think the workings of the palace and all the duties therein is implacable though. Do the work and duties. Keep a good face forward. Stay steady. Just like for most all of the rest of us really.

If Harry's nickname within palace circles was 'hostage' then that indicates to me he was looking for a way out before he met Meghan Markle. What stopped him from stepping back beforehand is up for guesswork . Only he and his immediate family will know . He did have a choice though. He could have stepped back quietly with permission but that would have = no dosh & no security. Conjecture, but perhaps meeting Meghan Markle at the age he is now somehow empowered him to make a move ,whereas with his long time partner Chelsea Davy and himself a few years back they were perhaps too young to take the bold step. AFAI remember he felt an infinity for the wide spaces of Africa , not the confines of California and the USA.

Whichever, it could well be that this couple have not been 110% candid and honest with each other about what was and was not possible or allowable as either working royals or non-working royals. A lack of honesty and a lack of understanding. My personal suggestion to them is they stop publically moaning , especially about his family that really are unable to counter such matters, & get on with whatever will be their lives now.

Let's hope he has not swapped one gilded cage for another. That he can now actually fade away to do whatever it is that takes his fancy. For herself , she has improved her lot without a doubt. No-one but her really knows her mind in this. If they settle down somewhat, they could have good comfy lives.

ps - I would give Harry's new fangled job to Jsmth321. ;)

pps - I have no idea re the Daily Mail. I know there was stink over her letter to her own Dad .

christmasoompa Mar 23rd 2021 7:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12987136)
I wonder how he can work in the US without a green card or a O-1A visa? Did the powers that be 'fast track' him?

I’m sure he already has a green card. I think that’s why they went to Canada, I think they waited for it to be processed there before moving.

abner Mar 23rd 2021 7:23 pm

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12987157)
I have some big nagging doubts that anyone inside of the palace inner circle would have shown any overt or covert signs of racism.

Seriously?? Have you followed anything to do with Prince Philip for the last 7 decades or so? :rofl::rofl::rofl:
Or are you thinking he was only some "mad uncle" at the dinner table, with no influence over the rest?
He was the pater familias, after all...

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...51be90316.jpeg


dbd33 Mar 23rd 2021 10:57 pm

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Originally Posted by abner (Post 12987152)
Voluntarily abandoning "royal" status is by definition the opposite of social climbing.

If she was truly a social climber, she wouldn't have pulled the rip-cord this early, and with such finality, and she likely wouldn't have been able to pull Harry out with her.

Rather it seems that she (and Harry) encountered some distasteful and implacable attitudes towards race both inside and (in the Daily Mail particularly) outside the palace walls, with Archie's birth pending. And when the situation didn't materially improve afterwards, they decided to get the hell outta Dodge.

Their children will thank them, even if the royalists will never forgive them.

Exactly.

dbd33 Mar 23rd 2021 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12987157)

pps - I have no idea re the Daily Mail. I know there was stink over her letter to her own Dad .

If you are not familiar with the toxic bile churned out by the Daily Mail then surely you are too fat from British life to be able to imagine the situation of a foreigner in the UK. The hate press is central to British life.

christmasoompa Mar 23rd 2021 11:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Jerseygirl (Post 12987256)
I think they waited in Canada for the his spouse visa to come through. After 3 years he can the apply for a GC.

You mean citizenship? Yes, I think that's what they did, I reckon they applied for the IV and then waited it out in Canada, so he'll have moved with that.

Jerseygirl Mar 23rd 2021 11:43 pm

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Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 12987259)
You mean citizenship? Yes, I think that's what they did, I reckon they applied for the IV and then waited it out in Canada, so he'll have moved with that.

Yes of course...citizenship.

caretaker Mar 24th 2021 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12987240)
If you are not familiar with the toxic bile churned out by the Daily Mail then surely you are too fat from British life to be able to imagine the situation of a foreigner in the UK. The hate press is central to British life.

I'm too fat from booze and food. I get what you're saying, but once the other kid comes Harry will be too busy to read BE anyway.

Shard Mar 24th 2021 1:40 am

Re: Prince Harry and Meghan ......
 

Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 12987157)
If Harry's nickname within palace circles was 'hostage' then that indicates to me he was looking for a way out before he met Meghan Markle. What stopped him from stepping back beforehand is up for guesswork . Only he and his immediate family will know . He did have a choice though. He could have stepped back quietly with permission but that would have = no dosh & no security. Conjecture, but perhaps meeting Meghan Markle at the age he is now somehow empowered him to make a move ,whereas with his long time partner Chelsea Davy and himself a few years back they were perhaps too young to take the bold step. AFAI remember he felt an infinity for the wide spaces of Africa , not the confines of California and the USA. .

Somehow, I assumed that 'hostage' was conferred on him during the MM era (as a hostage to her whims) but I suppose it's possible that he's always been looking for a way out or palace life.

dbd33 Mar 24th 2021 2:56 am

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12987301)
I'm too fat from booze and food. I get what you're saying, but once the other kid comes Harry will be too busy to read BE anyway.

Ha! Pies, pies and more pies, that's what built this arse.

Danny B Mar 24th 2021 7:35 am

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Jerseygirl Mar 24th 2021 8:02 am

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^^^^^^^ Yup the hypocrisy of H&M is astonishing.


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