Prince Harry and Meghan ......
Mar 31st 2020, 12:22 am
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Mar 31st 2020, 3:41 am
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Re: Prince Harry and Meghan ......
Does not appear Harry and Meghan had plans to even ask the US Govt to pay for it according to their statement, so really just Trump tweeting without knowing anything which is his usual behavior.
But not entirely sure how to take your post, would you have expected the US to provide security had they asked for it?
But not entirely sure how to take your post, would you have expected the US to provide security had they asked for it?
I meant more in terms of respecting and admiring the Queen, but not them!
Mar 31st 2020, 4:43 am
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I like to follow the royal family and their work but celebs , for example the Beckhams, have never interested me really.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
Mar 31st 2020, 5:08 pm
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Re: Prince Harry and Meghan ......
I like to follow the royal family and their work but celebs , for example the Beckhams, have never interested me really.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
Well said Bevs... and agree with you in that I hope the British royal family is not pulled into tacky celeb status now, which I fear it may, I think Canada was definitely a half way house.
Its a huge thing that he has done, obviously a lot more than what us "normal" expats have, and that was hard enough, he has an even steeper curve to climb, he obviously fell for Meghan hard..... just have a feeling he may regret it, hence the cooling off period the Queen gave him.
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Mar 31st 2020, 8:29 pm
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Re: Prince Harry and Meghan ......
I like to follow the royal family and their work but celebs , for example the Beckhams, have never interested me really.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
This couple are no longer on the UK Royal payroll so should be free to do & go as they wish . Make their own way, just as per the Beckhams do.
There would not be any sort of case for the USA to pay for this couple's security & I really cannot see why this thought has even arisen. There is no affiliation . It is not a commonwealth country. The Queen is not the USA's head of state.
Whilst the couple lived in Canada and whilst Harry was on the royal payroll ( civil list) then yes, there would be a contribution to his security and that of his family by Canadian tax payers . That would be alongside the costs to the UK taxpayer . The cost to the UK or Canadian taxpayer would only be in relation to security. When royals do their overseas tours the host country in question does pick up a goodly amount of the tab after all but the bulk comes from the Sovereign Grant ( not a cost burden to the UK taxpayer) to the civil list for the royal work undertaken.
IMO and it is only that , the UK taxpayer will be picking up the major cost of this couple's security for the forthcoming year. I base that on the news published & that of the comments on this couple's own website that HM The Queen has put in place a one year open door policy for the couple or her grandson to possibly return to the fold if they so wish. A cooling off period. A time of transition and re-adjustment . It doesn't make logical sense then that certain safeguards would therefore be suddenly pulled from this young man. There may well be a financial adjustment to aid the couple from the collective coffers of certain senior royals but I sort of doubt it would come to much. In my mind, funding any part of their security so they can live a lifestyle that was not of the royal family doesn't seem to fit with how the royals themselves conduct their affairs.
This couple have enough spondoodles to sort their own affairs and costs so they will get there with that in the end if that is what they both want.
My beef is only that they don't cost any taxpayer money and that the UK Royal family is not somehow pulled into celeb status through association and default.
Given the profile of the husband to the wife one would assume that all I's and T's were more than dotted and crossed before any move was made. Perhaps Canada was simply a half way house. All pure speculation & who cares what visa the USA thinks to dish out for them, anymore than for any other high profile person.
Good luck to them and more so to him one way or another. He is the one that has emigrated away from all he has known and his extended family. Being in the military did not make him any more 'normal' than any of the other royals, despite what he may feel about that, so his learning curve will remain steep . I wish him fortitude , clear sight and a brave heart for so many of us know just how hard it can be to emigrate to a new strange land.
I also hope that the rest of the Royal Family is not pulled into the celebrity world, and that Harry really does find his way through all this.
Apr 11th 2020, 6:33 pm
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Apr 11th 2020, 7:06 pm
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LA Times has a firewall, but there's a story in there about how the LAPD have been chasing Banksy all over town and erasing his art while he's painting it to promote a movie. Do you think that's his work?
Apr 11th 2020, 9:05 pm
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Apr 11th 2020, 9:08 pm
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oops, it was the other Times. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ce-02jpzksmnmw
Apr 11th 2020, 9:40 pm
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oops, it was the other Times. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/b...ce-02jpzksmnmw2011.
Apr 11th 2020, 10:05 pm
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I found an article finally, no attribution and it says it's been vandalised.https://sg.news.yahoo.com/graffiti-v...183600599.html
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