What has all this got to do with your original question of are there any clubs for British Expats in Ottawa?

Then you can have positive discrimination and blame them for it anyway.

Likely depends on the statistical demographic gender and ethnic make-up of the group not to mention age and orientation otherwise it would have to be personcotted and another formed based on a statistical probability of an equal representation of all ethnicities gender orientation age and religion if this does not work then all clubs would have to be reported to themselves and they would have to do an internal investigation on what happened to their external recruiting.

Not so much - I was politely responding to the questions posed.

A comment like this speaks to the underlying mentality - it is beyond redemption.

Imagine the righteous outrage if instead a user had written: "The Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves. They earned it through their success. Now they must pay."

Am I right in thinking that you are pro a more racially mixed Canada but anti French language?

Do you find the 'hoops' are mainly of a Francophone construction?

We go off topic all the time on here, it's expected and even encouraged. This way if he ever does find expats in Ottawa who will drink with him he'll have lots of negative comments ready with a wiki-full of statistics to back him up. Of course, he may have already received a bunch of pm's from Ottawa members wanting to get together, which would be nice. Rather than seek out a 'club' I think he'd gain more by just going into working-class bars and telling everyone just how bad, bogus, and backward they are. Nothing scripted, just be himself. That way he'd be able to communicate with a real cross section of society, and if there's a life lesson in manners forthcoming it may be more beneficial than anything learned on the internet. I've seen that classroom in session in Canada, the US, and Mexico so beware, other than language and location as far as I know it's the same everywhere.

I'm no more anti-French language than I am anti-Mandarin or anti-Gujerati or even anti-Dene as one of the equally justifiable and representative official languages of the people who make up Canada.

To respond to your point Millie, I am not naieve enough to believe that francophone language politics are not being used to exclude many Anglophones from good or pensionable government jobs. For that reason alone I would recommend that Anglophones take their money and hopes west in Canada or south to the United States. The historical antipathy between these two key linguistic groups has its roots in the early struggle for power in Canada and in the resulting subjugation of the minority.

I short I am pro-fairness; I am anti-consolidating even more privilege for those already privileged by the (racial) hierarchy in Canada through mass European immigration since the 19th century.

It is scandalous that the rights of so many minorities in early Canada were trampled over by hordes of people imported for that very purpose. They have been abused for their vulnerability and they have remained (been kept) in a subservient position. It's such an ugly history and one too rarely discussed to effect a fair change.

That mass immigration in Canada has today resulted in a moribund and inert approach - too many Old Canadians feel that they are entitled to so much more than New Canadians simply because they were fortunate to be born in Canada. Compare the US and Canadian economies; one is a behemoth and the other is market fair stall.

Old Canadians don't care a toss that someone outside of Canada has actively decided to spend a great deal of their time and money to choose to become Canadian, especially those coming from outside of Europe. You are here to consolidate their privilege and to inflate the value of their housing investments.

On a recent Globe and Mail thread to celebrate the legislative achievements of Dr. Martin Luther King Jnr and the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s, a self-confessed Old Canadian said he didn't give a hoot about opening up fair opportunities to non-white New Canadians. He got a lot of sympathetic votes for his post.

Sadly, he was utterly ignorant of the fact that British Commonwealth blacks had been in what is now Ontario and Nova Scotia, both as slaves and as free persons, since the 18th century (in truth many black Canadians descending from those people have a far greater entitlement to live off the fat of the Canadian land). He is not the only one. Many Old Canadians have no idea that slavery also occurred in Canada, albeit not on the industrial level of Britain and then later what became the United States; and they vehemently deny it.

Just google John Graves-Simcoe to discover otherwise.

The ignorance and air of entitlement in Canada can be quite staggering. Frankly, you cannot call Canada a generally advanced or sophisticated nation with that level of popular ignorance. It has more to do with belief systems and brainwashing.

Why would you do that?

QUOTE=legaleagle1965;10881828]I'm no more anti-French language than I am anti-Mandarin or anti-Gujerati or even anti-Dene as one of the equally justifiable and representative official languages of the people who make up Canada.

But French is one of the two official languages, the others aren't



Sadly, he was utterly ignorant of the fact that British Commonwealth blacks had been in what is now Ontario and Nova Scotia, both as slaves and as free persons, since the 18th century (in truth many black Canadians descending from those people have a far greater entitlement to live off the fat of the Canadian land). He is not the only one. Many Old Canadians have no idea that slavery also occurred in Canada, albeit not on the industrial level of Britain and then later what became the United States;

I have never seen it denied that slavery occurred in Canada, indeed in the war of 1812 a number of slave owners marched to Canada to fight for the British bringing their troops of slaves with them, whilst it might not be comfortable, I've never seen It denied. That being said, attitudes to women, racial and sexual stereotyping have moved a hell of a long way in the last 30 years, we went to Multi-Culty in a remarkably short time, it's not suprising that some of the slower of the species lagged along behind a bit.

The ignorance and air of entitlement in Canada can be quite staggering. Frankly, you cannot call Canada a generally advanced or sophisticated nation with that level of popular ignorance. It has more to do with belief systems and brainwashing.In a while of being on BE I don't think there have been many occasions when Posters have accused Canada of being generally advanced and sophisticated.[/QUOTE]

You seem to be in a right oik with Canada....are you going through a bad bit? I've had a few of those myself

Only in the winter.

Aha, I invoke Godwin

though I haven't grasped what the argument is to understand who was winning pre Godwin.

Thing is, trolls don't make a lot of sense. Such is the internet.

Nor do most regular posters.

huh I resemble that comment

though occasionally I do make some sort of sense