Ontario Election
Jun 5th 2014 | 4:31 am
#1
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Concierge
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From: Oakville, ON, CA
Ontario Election
Okay, cautiously bringing up this topic because I am genuinely interested to hear some thoughts.
I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.
Play nice.
I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.
Play nice.
Jun 5th 2014 | 5:24 am
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Re: Ontario Election
Tbh relieved I'm not yet eligible to vote, however much of a cop out that may be. Find the 'yah boo sucks' element of politics pretty dispiriting, and really wish I could be sure I haven't taken all my opinions from the attack ads. That being said, with 3 kids in public schools I would find it impossible to vote for the cuts.
Jun 5th 2014 | 5:45 am
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Re: Ontario Election
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
Jun 5th 2014 | 5:58 am
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Re: Ontario Election
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
a) Research the policies of the candidates
b) Vote for those you agree with, or don't vote at all
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:05 am
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From: Europe (to be specified).
Re: Ontario Election
Okay, cautiously bringing up this topic because I am genuinely interested to hear some thoughts.
I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.
Play nice.
I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.
Play nice.
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do
Otherwise just ask me.
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:31 am
#6
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From: Oakville, ON, CA
Re: Ontario Election
LOLOL that vote compass has NOT helped me. Hahahaha.
Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:
Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%
Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%
Parties in the same order in both results.
So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.
What to do...
Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:
Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%
Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%
Parties in the same order in both results.
So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.
What to do...
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:47 am
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Re: Ontario Election
HMM , food for thought
Similar position to Schnooks.
Non weighted and weighted , close but in same order .
OK Novo , who should I vote for
?
Similar position to Schnooks.
Non weighted and weighted , close but in same order .
OK Novo , who should I vote for
?
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:49 am
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Re: Ontario Election
Tried it too and got similarly close results. When you go through the comparisons at the end this is probably because for the majority of the questions there isn't much difference between the different parties, excepting the odd outlier.
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:53 am
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Re: Ontario Election
LOLOL that vote compass has NOT helped me. Hahahaha.
Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:
Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%
Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%
Parties in the same order in both results.
So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.
What to do...
Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:
Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%
Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%
Parties in the same order in both results.
So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.
What to do...
Jun 5th 2014 | 6:57 am
#10
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Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,908
From: Oakville, ON
Re: Ontario Election
I did the vote compass thing - for interest more than anything else, as I'm not yet a citizen. I was comforted to see how closely my gut-feel voting "intention" lined up with where the tool put me - my dot was almost on top of the party's dot.
I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.
Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.
I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.
Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.
Jun 5th 2014 | 7:12 am
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Re: Ontario Election
So you should consider voting LIB if you want to reduce the chance of left-of-centre vote splitting allowing Hudak to sneak in.
Last edited by Novocastrian; Jun 5th 2014 at 7:17 am. Reason: typo
Jun 5th 2014 | 7:18 am
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Re: Ontario Election
Actually, in your riding your vote might actually count. Your existing MPP is NDP but she only beat the LIB by a slim margin last time. A PC vote is pointless where you live (well, its pointless everywhere but they only get ~10% down there).
So you should consider voting LIB if you want to reduce the chance of left-of-centre vote splitting preventing Hudak sneaking in.
So you should consider voting LIB if you want to reduce the chance of left-of-centre vote splitting preventing Hudak sneaking in.
Spadina south of king is now 18 months past its original completion date
Jun 5th 2014 | 7:20 am
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From: Oakville, ON, CA
Re: Ontario Election
I did the vote compass thing - for interest more than anything else, as I'm not yet a citizen. I was comforted to see how closely my gut-feel voting "intention" lined up with where the tool put me - my dot was almost on top of the party's dot.
I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.
Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.
I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.
Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.
I don't knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..........
Jun 5th 2014 | 7:21 am
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Re: Ontario Election
Err, neither of those are provincial issues really.
Jun 5th 2014 | 7:26 am
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