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SchnookoLoly Jun 5th 2014 4:31 am

Ontario Election
 
Okay, cautiously bringing up this topic because I am genuinely interested to hear some thoughts.

I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.

Play nice.

Teaandtoday5 Jun 5th 2014 5:24 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
Tbh relieved I'm not yet eligible to vote, however much of a cop out that may be. Find the 'yah boo sucks' element of politics pretty dispiriting, and really wish I could be sure I haven't taken all my opinions from the attack ads. That being said, with 3 kids in public schools I would find it impossible to vote for the cuts.

Zoe Bell Jun 5th 2014 5:45 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do

Almost Canadian Jun 5th 2014 5:58 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11289698)
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do

How about:

a) Research the policies of the candidates
b) Vote for those you agree with, or don't vote at all

:D

Novocastrian Jun 5th 2014 6:05 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly (Post 11289588)
Okay, cautiously bringing up this topic because I am genuinely interested to hear some thoughts.

I've basically landed on "all options are crap, but which is the least crap" as far as this election goes, so I would be very interesting in hearing some thoughts across the board.

Play nice.


Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11289698)
I'm in exactly the same dilemma.
this is the first election I'm eligible to vote in.
I have very strong views that I SHOULD vote.
However I've paid very little interest in local politics for years as I knew that i couldn't vote.
Now I'm not really sure what I'm going to do

Try playing with this link... http://www.cbc.ca/elections/ontariov...14/votecompass ... it's not too bad as these things go.

Otherwise just ask me. :)

SchnookoLoly Jun 5th 2014 6:31 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
LOLOL that vote compass has NOT helped me. Hahahaha.

Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:

Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%

Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%

Parties in the same order in both results.

So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.

What to do...

Zoe Bell Jun 5th 2014 6:47 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
HMM , food for thought
Similar position to Schnooks.

Non weighted and weighted , close but in same order .
OK Novo , who should I vote for ;)?

Teaandtoday5 Jun 5th 2014 6:49 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
Tried it too and got similarly close results. When you go through the comparisons at the end this is probably because for the majority of the questions there isn't much difference between the different parties, excepting the odd outlier.

Novocastrian Jun 5th 2014 6:53 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by SchnookoLoly (Post 11289752)
LOLOL that vote compass has NOT helped me. Hahahaha.

Not listing the parties specifically, but the percentages with how they lined up for me:

Non-weighted:
57%
55%
53%
49%

Weighted:
56%
55%
51%
48%

Parties in the same order in both results.

So that hasn't particularly helped. LOL. Interesting exercise, though.

What to do...

Get off the bleeding fence!

Oakvillian Jun 5th 2014 6:57 am

Re: Ontario Election
 
I did the vote compass thing - for interest more than anything else, as I'm not yet a citizen. I was comforted to see how closely my gut-feel voting "intention" lined up with where the tool put me - my dot was almost on top of the party's dot.

I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.

Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.

Novocastrian Jun 5th 2014 7:12 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11289770)
HMM , food for thought
Similar position to Schnooks.

Non weighted and weighted , close but in same order .
OK Novo , who should I vote for ;)?

Actually, in your riding your vote might actually count. Your existing MPP is NDP but she only beat the LIB by a slim margin last time. A PC vote is pointless where you live (well, its pointless everywhere but they only get ~10% down there).

So you should consider voting LIB if you want to reduce the chance of left-of-centre vote splitting allowing Hudak to sneak in.

Zoe Bell Jun 5th 2014 7:18 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11289799)
Actually, in your riding your vote might actually count. Your existing MPP is NDP but she only beat the LIB by a slim margin last time. A PC vote is pointless where you live (well, its pointless everywhere but they only get ~10% down there).

So you should consider voting LIB if you want to reduce the chance of left-of-centre vote splitting preventing Hudak sneaking in.

I need to loom at who backs what airport wise and if anyone is remotely interested that neither of the streetcars i use to get to work have been running for 2 years now.
Spadina south of king is now 18 months past its original completion date

SchnookoLoly Jun 5th 2014 7:20 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 11289782)
I did the vote compass thing - for interest more than anything else, as I'm not yet a citizen. I was comforted to see how closely my gut-feel voting "intention" lined up with where the tool put me - my dot was almost on top of the party's dot.

I'm still very surprised that Oakville is a liberal-held riding, given its reputation as a hotbed of smug middle-class suburbanites, who one might have assumed would be a happy hunting ground for Hudak's PC folks. It's certainly one of their target constituencies, though their candidate's a bit of a nonentity, a former London-based merchant banker. Our incumbent MPP seems properly engaged with the local community and is actually also quite a nice bloke, for a politician - I've met him a few times through organizations I'm involved with. I suspect he'll be back in on June 12, though it'll be a tighter race than 2011.

Strangely, considering the amount of news acreage it's gathering across the province, the "Gas Plant Scandal" really isn't an issue in the riding itself. Perhaps at least in part because all three major parties' candidates last time around campaigned on the promise that they'd support cancellation/relocation. And the local electorate remembers that, even if Hudak and Horwath have conveniently forgotten.

I haven't met Kevin Flynn yet, but have heard very nice things about him. I did get a Christmas card from him this year too! :P My parents have met him and they said he's lovely. And I know he's been quite involved in the Deerfield/Saw-Whet discussions, which is one of my own local bones of contention.

I don't knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww..........

Novocastrian Jun 5th 2014 7:21 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 11289803)
I need to loom at who backs what airport wise and if anyone is remotely interested that neither of the streetcars i use to get to work have been running for 2 years now.
Spadina south of king is now 18 months past its original completion date

Err, neither of those are provincial issues really.

Zoe Bell Jun 5th 2014 7:26 am

Re: Ontario Election
 

Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11289807)
Err, neither of those are provincial issues really.

Ah fudge it , I've got my elections mixed up. City is in October isn't it ?

:scarper::scarper::scarper:


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