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Old Feb 6th 2009 | 2:42 am
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Question "One eyed scottish idiot"

Term of abuse?

Unerringly accurate description?

Insulting to the ocularly challenged?

Insulting to Scots?



Why should Clarksons latest rant be seen as offensive to blind people, surely if Gordon Brown has only one working eye, and is Scottish, and is arguably an idiot, there is no reason for the RNIB to take offense and say its denigrating to the blind for them to be assumed to be stupid? He wasn't calling all blind people stupid....just the one who happens to be trying to run the country?

Am I missing something, or is this just petty PC point scoring?

I suspect the real lesson is just to ignore Jeremy Clarkson's "colourful" random outburst. While he can be a bit entertaining in small doses, why anyone takes him seriously and gets their panties all twisted up about him is a mystery to me.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...ish-idiot.html
 
Old Feb 6th 2009 | 2:54 am
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I can't believe how much airtime this thing is getting I mean it's Jeremy Clarkson for god sake to people really expect him to be all cuddly and sensitive.
 
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He's a d**k............
 
Old Feb 6th 2009 | 2:58 am
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At guess at least he apologized unlike the other idiot in the news this week, Carol Thatcher:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7868401.stm
 
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I am surprised he apologized....Frankly I'd say "one eyed" and "scottish" were fair adjectives used to describe the person in question, as he is scottish and has vision in only one eye. Idiot is clearly a matter of opinion of course.

I dont get why the RNIB took offense, unless they feel besmirched by the association with GB?


I think the negative associations with Golliwogs are clear enough now, and that it was bizarre that anyone media savvy would go there, and stupid not to apologise (although apologies dont seem to come easily to Thatchers in general), and its not the first time that path has been trodden, but when did "one eyed" become a term of abuse. Maybe I missed it

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Default Re: "One eyed scottish idiot"

Originally Posted by iaink
I am suprised he appologised....Frankly I'd say "one eyed" and "scottish" were fair adjectives used to describe the person in question. Idiot is a matter of opinion of course.

I dont get why the RNIB took offense, unless they feel besmirched by the association with GB?
That wouldn't surprise me, as any decent Scot doesn't want to be associated with him either!!!
 
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He's a d**k............
Clarkson or Brown
 
Old Feb 6th 2009 | 3:09 am
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Originally Posted by iaink
I am suprised he appologised....Frankly I'd say "one eyed" and "scottish" were fair adjectives used to describe the person in question, as he is scottish and has vision in only one eye. Idiot is clearly a matter of opinion of course.

I dont get why the RNIB took offense, unless they feel besmirched by the association with GB?


I think the negative associations with Golywogs are clear enough now, and its not the first time that path has been trodden, but when did "one eyed" become a term of abuse. Maybe I missed it
I agree it's all a bit ridiculous. I guess since he upset Prostitutes and Truck drivers a few weeks ago he been walking a fine line with the BBC bosses
 
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I have to say being a Scot I'm not fussed, I think Clarkston is an arsehole. I'm not a fan of Brown either, however the way Clarkston said it will wind some people up.

He could have just said that Brown was an Idiot, why he had to bring his nationality and disability into it I don't really know, unless he thinks that being part blind and Scottish is a way to degrade him.

Like I say doesn't bother me because I think that he is an arsehole, not "an English arsehole" just an arsehole.
 
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Default Re: "One eyed scottish idiot"

Originally Posted by iaink
Term of abuse?

Unerringly accurate description?

Insulting to the ocularly challenged?

Insulting to Scots?



Why should Clarksons latest rant be seen as offensive to blind people, surely if Gordon Brown has only one working eye, and is Scottish, and is arguably an idiot, there is no reason for the RNIB to take offense and say its denigrating to the blind for them to be assumed to be stupid? He wasn't calling all blind people stupid....just the one who happens to be trying to run the country?

Am I missing something, or is this just petty PC point scoring?
I haven't read the article... but...

I think that it can be seen as offensive to blind people because the phrase was formulated as an insult, not as a benign description. It infers that having one eye is as negative as being an idiot.

Had JC had said, 'hard of hearing' instead of 'one-eyed' I would be offended as I am HoH and it's not a pleasant experience and it feels not very nice when it's used as an insult... though, I would also consider the source and move on.
 
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I think you have to take into account who said it and where it was said

A) Clarkson - famous for upsetting people with his comments but thats why most people(me included) watch TopGear

B) Australia - famous for its prime mininster speaking his mind and saying " if you don't like it here get out " or words close to that

At the end of the day its Jeremy Clarkson doing what his does best - playing to an audience and upsetting a few people along the way
 
Old Feb 6th 2009 | 5:41 am
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Timely, arrived in my inbox today.



THIS REALLY SUMS UP WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING. I WOULD SAY THERE WOULD EVEN BE SOME PAKISTANIS WHO WOULD AGREE WITH THIS.

Worth sharing: Subject: A Right Royal commentary....

Am I right in thinking that PAKI is short for Pakistani? Just an abbreviation?

Prince Harry calls a mate "Our little Paki friend" and is forced to apologise two years later. This guy was a mate of his for heaven's sake!

Am I right in thinking that "Brit" is short for British? Should the Sun Newspaper be forced to apologise every time it prints the word Brit or The Brits are coming? Is the word Brit offensive?

Is "Scot" Offensive? "The Scots are coming". Another Sun Newspaper Football Clash Headline classic.

What about Ozzie? Kiwi? Pommie? Limey? Where or when will this lunacy end? The Cornish call all holiday makers "Grockles" Anything wrong with that?

If a Pakistani called you "His Brit friend" Would you feel offended? Would you demand an apology on National TV?

Of course not.

Del Trotter refers to "The Paki Shop" in one episode of Only Fools and Horses. (Now overdubbed for UK Gold with the offending word taken out). (The episode when they build a nuclear fall out shelter). Should Sir David Jason now apologise? Should the writer John Sullivan apologise? Should the BBC apologise?

What about the Fuzzywuzzies? "Dads Army"

What about "You stupid Kraut"? Fawlty Towers . Both still being broadcast regularly with no overdub.

The Idiots are at it again trying to stir up racial hatred. It's just madness surely?

I'm happy being a BRIT, BRITISH, ENGLISH, POMMIE, LIMEY or whatever. I don't care a fig. I only care when I'm called a racist.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEARS "BRIT AWARDS" ON THE TV. LUCKILY, THANKS TO THE ZEALOTS, RACISTS AND BIGOTS THERE WILL NEVER BE A "PAKI AWARDS". Oh no indeed, because all the Pakis will be at The Brit Awards. And us Brits won't mind at all will we?

There's something rotten in the barrel and nobody in government or local politics has the guts to stand up and say "GROW UP THE LOT OF YOU".

If you agree then pass this on. If not then you still have the democratic right to delete it. (Well for the time being anyway).
 
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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
Clarkson or Brown
Both!
 
Old Feb 6th 2009 | 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by GavinR
Timely, arrived in my inbox today.



THIS REALLY SUMS UP WHAT WE ARE ALL THINKING. I WOULD SAY THERE WOULD EVEN BE SOME PAKISTANIS WHO WOULD AGREE WITH THIS.

Worth sharing: Subject: A Right Royal commentary....

Am I right in thinking that PAKI is short for Pakistani? Just an abbreviation?

Prince Harry calls a mate "Our little Paki friend" and is forced to apologise two years later. This guy was a mate of his for heaven's sake!

Am I right in thinking that "Brit" is short for British? Should the Sun Newspaper be forced to apologise every time it prints the word Brit or The Brits are coming? Is the word Brit offensive?

Is "Scot" Offensive? "The Scots are coming". Another Sun Newspaper Football Clash Headline classic.

What about Ozzie? Kiwi? Pommie? Limey? Where or when will this lunacy end? The Cornish call all holiday makers "Grockles" Anything wrong with that?

If a Pakistani called you "His Brit friend" Would you feel offended? Would you demand an apology on National TV?

Of course not.

Del Trotter refers to "The Paki Shop" in one episode of Only Fools and Horses. (Now overdubbed for UK Gold with the offending word taken out). (The episode when they build a nuclear fall out shelter). Should Sir David Jason now apologise? Should the writer John Sullivan apologise? Should the BBC apologise?

What about the Fuzzywuzzies? "Dads Army"

What about "You stupid Kraut"? Fawlty Towers . Both still being broadcast regularly with no overdub.

The Idiots are at it again trying to stir up racial hatred. It's just madness surely?

I'm happy being a BRIT, BRITISH, ENGLISH, POMMIE, LIMEY or whatever. I don't care a fig. I only care when I'm called a racist.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT YEARS "BRIT AWARDS" ON THE TV. LUCKILY, THANKS TO THE ZEALOTS, RACISTS AND BIGOTS THERE WILL NEVER BE A "PAKI AWARDS". Oh no indeed, because all the Pakis will be at The Brit Awards. And us Brits won't mind at all will we?

There's something rotten in the barrel and nobody in government or local politics has the guts to stand up and say "GROW UP THE LOT OF YOU".

If you agree then pass this on. If not then you still have the democratic right to delete it. (Well for the time being anyway).

It's all PC gone completely off the rails - none of this apology nonsense when I were little un but that weren't yesterday.........
 
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Default Re: "One eyed scottish idiot"

Originally Posted by mclauchlan35
I have to say being a Scot I'm not fussed, I think Clarkston is an arsehole. I'm not a fan of Brown either, however the way Clarkston said it will wind some people up.

He could have just said that Brown was an Idiot, why he had to bring his nationality and disability into it I don't really know, unless he thinks that being part blind and Scottish is a way to degrade him.

Like I say doesn't bother me because I think that he is an arsehole, not "an English arsehole" just an arsehole.

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