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jimf Aug 20th 2015 2:28 am

The new labour leader...
 
Labour seem to be going through the same cycle as the conservatives did in electing leaders post 97...

If Jeremy Corbyn is Labour's leader there may not be a way back - Telegraph

Pulaski Aug 20th 2015 3:21 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11728660)
Labour seem to be going through the same cycle as the conservatives did in electing leaders post 97. .....

If Jeremy Corbyn is Labour's leader there may not be a way back .....

I think the better comparison is the same cycle that Labour had between 1980 and 1994, when it took 12 years to reinvent themselves and find a leader with enough charisma to lead the party to a general election victory. The analogy even extends to the schism that took place in 1981, which appears likely to be repeated if Jeremy Corbyn is elected Labour leader.

MarkG Aug 20th 2015 5:37 am

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Seems to me that people around the world are just getting fed up with politicians who are more concerned with getting a fat job after they're kicked out of power than serving the people who elect them. I think Corbyn would be an awful PM, but he certainly seems to be offering people something other than 'more of the same'.

kimilseung Aug 20th 2015 5:41 am

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Lets get old clause IV back too!

Pulaski Aug 20th 2015 5:48 am

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Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 11728843)
Seems to me that people around the world are just getting fed up with politicians who are more concerned with getting a fat job after they're kicked out of power than serving the people who elect them. I think Corbyn would be an awful PM, but he certainly seems to be offering people something other than 'more of the same'.

Substitute "Corbyn" with "Trump", and what you say still makes sense.

Shard Aug 20th 2015 6:10 am

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At least he's good entertainment.

Krishnan Guru-Murthy gets shouted down after interrupting Jeremy Corbyn in Channel 4 interview | Metro News

Oink Aug 20th 2015 6:23 am

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He'll be 71 at the next election. One for the future then. :thumbup:

BritInParis Aug 20th 2015 6:48 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 11728716)
I think the better comparison is the same cycle that Labour had between 1980 and 1994, when it took 12 years to reinvent themselves and find a leader with enough charisma to lead the party to a general election victory. The analogy even extends to the schism that took place in 1981, which appears likely to be repeated if Jeremy Corbyn is elected Labour leader.

I agree that the party is heading for another potential SDP-style split. It took Labour another 15 years to be re-elected after the last one. Do they really want to go down that road again?

Pulaski Aug 20th 2015 6:56 am

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Originally Posted by BritInParis (Post 11728897)
I agree that the party is heading for another potential SDP-style split. It took Labour another 15 years to be re-elected after the last one. Do they really want to go down that road again?

It looks like it! :lol:

scrubbedexpat133 Aug 21st 2015 6:36 am

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I agree with a lot of his politics. I think that the article is a bit misleading.

One interesting point from it was the quotes.

Boris Johnson: "It would be very complacent and wrong to ignore the truth of some of the observations he is making about ways in which society could be better. We should be humble about that."

Fair play Boris, respect where it is due.

MrHyperPants Aug 24th 2015 1:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Alex2201 (Post 11729695)
I agree with a lot of his politics. I think that the article is a bit misleading.

One interesting point from it was the quotes.

Boris Johnson: "It would be very complacent and wrong to ignore the truth of some of the observations he is making about ways in which society could be better. We should be humble about that."

Fair play Boris, respect where it is due.

Boris is brilliant. He should be the PM. No doubt he will be at some stage in the future.

kimilseung Aug 24th 2015 1:13 pm

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Originally Posted by MrHyperPants (Post 11731978)
Boris is brilliant. He should be the PM. No doubt he will be at some stage in the future.

If he becomes PM, will he be proscribed from being US President?

BritInParis Aug 24th 2015 6:39 pm

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Originally Posted by kimilseung (Post 11731979)
If he becomes PM, will he be proscribed from being US President?

He is supposedly renouncing his US citizenship. Presumably he doesn't want it to be used against him in any bid he makes for Number 10 in 2020.

Boris Johnson 'intends to renounce US citizenship' - BBC News

jimf Sep 8th 2015 5:08 am

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Looks like the real fight is about to begin...


Make no mistake, Labour is at war with itself - Telegraph

MarkG Sep 8th 2015 6:29 am

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Originally Posted by jimf (Post 11743417)
Looks like the real fight is about to begin...

I'm stocking up on popcorn. Could be as entertaining as watching Trump take down the Republican party.


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