This needs to stop
Oct 14th 2012, 3:06 pm
#61
Up Your Kilt
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Re: This needs to stop
I can't argue with you from a moral standpoint but the victim must take action to protect themselves. Often authority is part of the problem. If the victim makes any admission of violence then authority will jump at the chance to blame the victim. You have to realize that authority is under challenge. They know they have failed to maintain the peace and they will do anything to cover their own ass. The bully will lie like a cheap rug. You have to fight fire with fire. Do you want to be right or so you want to win?
And I'd like to be right and win
Oct 14th 2012, 4:24 pm
#62
Just Joined
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Location: Trenton Ontario Canada
Posts: 19
Re: This needs to stop
Being right and moral only works when the other guy is right and moral. You cannot win by sticking to the rules if the other guy cheats. Authority has let us down, badly. The bully should have been stopped long ago. it isn't exactly rocket science. When you stand on your high horse you give bullies and authority the excuse to continue as they always have. You do this because you will not do what needs to be done and you won't do it because it involves you taking a risk. When you, and the legions like you, take a stand and don't give a fig for "rules" then things will start to improve.
You have no evidence that lying will bite me in the ass. Nice sound bite, wishful thinking, a triumph of hope over reality.
Oct 14th 2012, 7:13 pm
#63
Up Your Kilt
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Re: This needs to stop
You don't have the option of being right and winning. Look at it this way; you are approaching a traffic light that is green. You can see that another car is approaching on the other road and his traffic light is red. He is supposed to stop but you can tell he will not, he is not slowing down at all. You are right to continue but if you do there will be an accident. You don't have the option of being right and winning. If you stop you are obstructing traffic by stopping at a green light. If you don't stop somebody gets hurt, likely you. The wise thing to do is to stop but you are not right because you are supposed to go through and he is supposed to stop.
Being right and moral only works when the other guy is right and moral. You cannot win by sticking to the rules if the other guy cheats. Authority has let us down, badly. The bully should have been stopped long ago. it isn't exactly rocket science. When you stand on your high horse you give bullies and authority the excuse to continue as they always have. You do this because you will not do what needs to be done and you won't do it because it involves you taking a risk. When you, and the legions like you, take a stand and don't give a fig for "rules" then things will start to improve.
You have no evidence that lying will bite me in the ass. Nice sound bite, wishful thinking, a triumph of hope over reality.
Being right and moral only works when the other guy is right and moral. You cannot win by sticking to the rules if the other guy cheats. Authority has let us down, badly. The bully should have been stopped long ago. it isn't exactly rocket science. When you stand on your high horse you give bullies and authority the excuse to continue as they always have. You do this because you will not do what needs to be done and you won't do it because it involves you taking a risk. When you, and the legions like you, take a stand and don't give a fig for "rules" then things will start to improve.
You have no evidence that lying will bite me in the ass. Nice sound bite, wishful thinking, a triumph of hope over reality.
The evidence is personal experience - the ramifications of lying always turned out worse than telling the truth.
Oct 14th 2012, 7:27 pm
#64
Nuther day in paradise.ca
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: Ajax, Ontario
Posts: 7,263
Re: This needs to stop
No lies?
Never
Ever?
I was doing 147 kmh officer not 100.
Yes jimmy there is no Father Christmas, get over it.
:@) maybe just a ikle white lie ehh
Never
Ever?
I was doing 147 kmh officer not 100.
Yes jimmy there is no Father Christmas, get over it.
:@) maybe just a ikle white lie ehh
Oct 14th 2012, 7:36 pm
#65
Stand-up Philosopher
Joined: Apr 2009
Location: Regina Saskatchewan
Posts: 16,344
Re: This needs to stop
You don't have the option of being right and winning. Look at it this way; you are approaching a traffic light that is green. You can see that another car is approaching on the other road and his traffic light is red. He is supposed to stop but you can tell he will not, he is not slowing down at all. You are right to continue but if you do there will be an accident. You don't have the option of being right and winning. If you stop you are obstructing traffic by stopping at a green light. If you don't stop somebody gets hurt, likely you. The wise thing to do is to stop but you are not right because you are supposed to go through and he is supposed to sto.
Oct 14th 2012, 7:41 pm
#66
Nuther day in paradise.ca
Joined: Aug 2008
Location: Ajax, Ontario
Posts: 7,263
Re: This needs to stop
And if you have just stepped off the film set of "liar liar" then you will have to tell the attending cop that you saw it was guna happen but you wanted to be in the right. (now hand me my leg please mr policeman)
Oct 14th 2012, 8:33 pm
#67
Banned
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 314
Re: This needs to stop
Being right and moral only works when the other guy is right and moral. You cannot win by sticking to the rules if the other guy cheats. Authority has let us down, badly. The bully should have been stopped long ago. it isn't exactly rocket science. When you stand on your high horse you give bullies and authority the excuse to continue as they always have. You do this because you will not do what needs to be done and you won't do it because it involves you taking a risk. When you, and the legions like you, take a stand and don't give a fig for "rules" then things will start to improve.
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Oct 14th 2012, 8:47 pm
#68
Just Joined
Joined: Jun 2009
Location: Trenton Ontario Canada
Posts: 19
Re: This needs to stop
Time for driver training class! If you see that an accident is going to happen and you take no action to avoid it, (when possible), you are guilty of violating the rule of 'Last Clear Chance', and the accident is your fault. Learned that little gem in 1970 in the school sponsored driver traaining program.
Naaa, in your lala land he says "I knew there was going to be an accident but I did it anyway." Whatever you are smoking I want some!
Oct 14th 2012, 8:53 pm
#69
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Re: This needs to stop
Not sure what your example has to do with lying and not sure how saying I don't condone lying equates to not taking risks or breaking a few rules so I guess I'll agree to disagree (I even don't mind a bit of violence or cheating) but don't agree on lying.
The evidence is personal experience - the ramifications of lying always turned out worse than telling the truth.
The evidence is personal experience - the ramifications of lying always turned out worse than telling the truth.
Oct 14th 2012, 9:32 pm
#72
Dive Bar Drunk
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,649
Re: This needs to stop
A really sad story.
There is the day to day bullying but when you can't escape it in your own home it must be traumatic.
I have worked for several bully's but I know at 5.30pm I can leave the office and go and enjoy myself. It is water of a ducks back.
When some sicko is harassing you online and posting an embarrassing photo of you that was taken out of trickery in your past then where do you run. Unfortunately these days the bullying has gone 24/7- I have no doubt now it is worse than in my day and that of other posters on this forum. Bullying is more sophisticated.
There is the day to day bullying but when you can't escape it in your own home it must be traumatic.
I have worked for several bully's but I know at 5.30pm I can leave the office and go and enjoy myself. It is water of a ducks back.
When some sicko is harassing you online and posting an embarrassing photo of you that was taken out of trickery in your past then where do you run. Unfortunately these days the bullying has gone 24/7- I have no doubt now it is worse than in my day and that of other posters on this forum. Bullying is more sophisticated.
Last edited by JamesM; Oct 14th 2012 at 9:35 pm.
Oct 14th 2012, 9:35 pm
#73
slanderer of the innocent
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 6,695
Re: This needs to stop
A really sad story.
There is the day to day bullying but when you can't escape it in your own home it must be traumatic.
I have worked for several bully's but I know at 5.30pm I can leave the office and go and enjoy myself. It is water of a ducks back.
When some sicko is harassing you online and posting an embarrassing photo of you that was taken out of trickery in your past then where do you run. Unfortunately these days the bullying has gone 24/7- I have no doubt now it is worse than in my day and that of other posters on this forum. Bullying is more sophisticated.
There is the day to day bullying but when you can't escape it in your own home it must be traumatic.
I have worked for several bully's but I know at 5.30pm I can leave the office and go and enjoy myself. It is water of a ducks back.
When some sicko is harassing you online and posting an embarrassing photo of you that was taken out of trickery in your past then where do you run. Unfortunately these days the bullying has gone 24/7- I have no doubt now it is worse than in my day and that of other posters on this forum. Bullying is more sophisticated.
Oct 14th 2012, 9:41 pm
#74
Dive Bar Drunk
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 8,649
Re: This needs to stop
Also having separated parents can not have helped. They must be feeling terrible.
The whole thing sickens me. I hope they catch and arrest the sicko who sent the picture to everyone she knows.
Oct 14th 2012, 9:41 pm
#75
Up Your Kilt
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