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Old Jul 30th 2007 | 5:47 am
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Originally Posted by Alvic
This is actually true Ann...hence the rise and rise of Sinn Fein who are the Political wing of the IRA and are now sitting in the Government of our country after wreaking havoc and murder here over the past 40 years and are still unrepentant for what they did on the "Brits". Their incredible elctoral success is thanks to the votes of the Northern Ireland Catholic. Equally so their recent defeat in the election in the Irish Republic was thanks to the votes NOT cast for them by the Southern Irish Catholic....so it is quite obvious who supports them more on each side of the border here.
I may come across as very bitter on this subject, but believe me I have first hand experience and cant wait to get out of here away from the farce my beloved wee country has become.
I too have very first hand experience in this area but will not go into details at this point. Suffice to say one uncle was blown up and killed and another was blown up and lives like a 6 year old with a metal plate holding his brain together.

I have mixed feelings on these kinds of discussions and end up with a sore bum from sitting on the fence sometimes.

In my line of work we are told never to sterotype people - never. And yet each time I came into contact with many different types of people, about 90% of the time they confirm the stereotype. Good or bad - depends on your point of view I guess. But what of those other 10% of people? Do I risk treating them badly/harshly/unfairly because my experience tells me to. It's a risk we all take, everyday - sometimes it only results in a filthy look or a swear word. Other times it could result in serious injury or death !

To say all British Muslim doctors are terrorists is a sweeping stereotype. To say all northern irish catholics support the IRA is sweeping. The percentages of who is definately one of those things will vary - but to approach each new person in your life with a huge pre-judged thought about them - is to some degree inevitable human nature, but a sad shame too, I think.

Your experience leads you to your conclusions - I completely understand that. Mine do too, but sometimes it does not make me sit comfortably with my thoughts.
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 7:04 am
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Melanie Phillips is a Zionist what can you expect from her. People like her would find any reasons to defame Islam and Muslims. However some extremist elements among Muslims have given such people every apportunity to write books, make lots of money, and create fear.
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat
Dunno whether anyone listens to 'The Now' show from Radio 4 via the web, but Marcus Brigstocks rant on the three Abrahmic faiths was brilliant. Catch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY-ZrwFwLQg
The Now Show is required listening in our household - currently most easily accessible through BBC Seven, since Radio 4's "listen again" feature seems to be up the swanee. Brigstocke's rant is always good value for money (especially since it's free...).

In the interests of fairness (and bragging), I should point out my own modest connection with the Now Show: the only time I have ever had my "work" broadcast was my answer to the end-of-show audience question when I went to see it recorded in London a few years ago.
 
Old Jul 30th 2007 | 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by ann m
I too have very first hand experience in this area but will not go into details at this point. Suffice to say one uncle was blown up and killed and another was blown up and lives like a 6 year old with a metal plate holding his brain together.

I have mixed feelings on these kinds of discussions and end up with a sore bum from sitting on the fence sometimes.

In my line of work we are told never to sterotype people - never. And yet each time I came into contact with many different types of people, about 90% of the time they confirm the stereotype. Good or bad - depends on your point of view I guess. But what of those other 10% of people? Do I risk treating them badly/harshly/unfairly because my experience tells me to. It's a risk we all take, everyday - sometimes it only results in a filthy look or a swear word. Other times it could result in serious injury or death !

To say all British Muslim doctors are terrorists is a sweeping stereotype. To say all northern irish catholics support the IRA is sweeping. The percentages of who is definately one of those things will vary - but to approach each new person in your life with a huge pre-judged thought about them - is to some degree inevitable human nature, but a sad shame too, I think.

Your experience leads you to your conclusions - I completely understand that. Mine do too, but sometimes it does not make me sit comfortably with my thoughts.
Exactly Ann, as we get older i think we do get wiser. It is hard to look at the "other side" with no pre-concieved misconceptions especially when you have grown up somewhere like NI. One of the reasons I look forward to Canada is to be able to make friends and enjoy having neighbours without religion being the first thing in your head. I have found too as I get older that when our country is looked at from the outside in - that it is all quite ridiculous. Its just a pity so many people, innocent on both sides of the divide have had to die.
 

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