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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13107553)
In our industry wages are booming. Last autumn we had a choice of Project Managers at 110-120, now they're 140-150/hr. A colleague just walked away from $35,000 in retention bonus expecting to make it up in improved rate. It feels more boom than bust. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 13107590)
Don't know why but I thought of 'Loadsamoney' when reading your reply :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeDmKvzZkok Well, yes, it's vulgar, but one doesn't live here for the climate or the scenery. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 13107555)
FFS. I really wish you would stick to facts.
I didn't state that there would be no second wave. I stated that I'd wager that there will be no second wave. I note that you didn't take that bet. You now appear to want to criticise me for the decision that my doctor made. WTF? |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13107592)
Well, yes, it's vulgar, but one doesn't live here for the climate or the scenery.
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
(Post 13107639)
This one is even better.... another of Enfield's hilarious creations!! l.....and I know how you just love a Brummie accent! :lol:
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 13107700)
It's only 08:30 AM here, please don't send me down another YT rabbit hole looking at British comedy from the 80s/90s! :lol:
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 13107700)
It's only 08:30 AM here, please don't send me down another YT rabbit hole looking at British comedy from the 80s/90s! :lol:
LOL you know how much you miss it... remember Hale and Pace too? I saw them live twice! I have even taught some of my Canadian friends some of their one liners... priceless! ... however beware of the rabbit hole! |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13107702)
Rick Mayall
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 13113373)
That said, what I didn't see in the first few paragraphs of the linked study, is what I have long assumed is wrong with the criticisms of the anti-maskers, that the effectiveness of a mask is largely a function of its ability to catch vapor particles which are much larger that than actual viruses. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 13113373)
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Re: Masks
Yes well it is to be expected that consistent mask use in crowded settings may well offer better protection than no mask yet this study is probably not really telling us anything new and is flawed. In the conclusion it states:
The findings in this report are subject to at least eight limitations and then goes on to list them and the first one being: First, this study did not account for other preventive behaviors that could influence risk for acquiring infection, including adherence to physical distancing recommendations. Then there were the variables of indoor settings that weren't accounted for like ventilation, size of building, number of people, duration of time inside and so on. Also did at least some parts of California not reinstate the mandate during summer of 2021 due to surge in cases, certainly LA county did so large areas were under a mandate during some of this time. |
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I've just been reminded of an episode of Yes Minister.
Discredit the evidence...You say: (a) that it leaves important questions unanswered (b) that much of the evidence is inconclusive (c) that the figures are open to other interpretations (d) that certain findings are contradictory (e) that some of the main conclusions have been questioned Points (a) to (d) are bound to be true. In fact, all of these criticisms can be made of a report without even reading it. There are, for instance, always some questions unanswered -- such as the ones they haven't asked. As regards (e), if some of the main conclusions have not been questioned, question them! Then they have. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 13113543)
.... First, this study did not account for other preventive behaviors that could influence risk for acquiring infection, including adherence to physical distancing recommendations. .....
It was obvious to me, very early on, that while wearing a mask, social distancing, or limiting exposure were all potentially effective at greatly reducing the risk of infection, that doing all of the above was preferred, and so for the past couple of years I have worn a mask while shopping, done negligible shopping other than for groceries and occasional DIY purchases from Lowe's, done most of my shopping either before 8am or after 8pm when there are often negligible numbers of shoppers, and then stayed away from the few shoppers there are in the store. There was one instance of me visiting a family that had, at that time, undiagnosed cases of covid. Luckily I was wearing my mask, went inside only briefly (5-10 minutes), and mostly stood outside to talk, at about 10ft distance, while still wearing a mask. It's impossible to know if my mask saved me from catching covid, but it certainly did me no harm. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 13113670)
That is almost certainly true, and totally reasonable behavior if you have any awareness of the potential seriousness of a covid infection and are prepared to take reasonable steps to avoid catching it.
It was obvious to me, very early on, that while wearing a mask, social distancing, or limiting exposure were all potentially effective at greatly reducing the risk of infection, that doing all of the above was preferred, and so for the past couple of years I have worn a mask while shopping, done negligible shopping other than for groceries and occasional DIY purchases from Lowe's, done most of my shopping either before 8am or after 8pm when there are often negligible numbers of shoppers, and then stayed away from the few shoppers there are in the store. There was one instance of me visiting a family that had, at that time, undiagnosed cases of covid. Luckily I was wearing my mask, went inside only briefly (5-10 minutes), and mostly stood outside to talk, at about 10ft distance, while still wearing a mask. It's impossible to know if my mask saved me from catching covid, but it certainly did me no harm. |
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