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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 13102432)
Sounds very similar to my situation, because if I get dragged back into the office it won't help me at all, as my manager is in New York City, the project manager I am working with is in upstate New York, and with only one exception, the other people I work with are in Chicago, Florida, Minnesota, and California.
Then there is the secondary matter that my manager doesn't really know what I do, nor did the manager before him, nor the one before that .... in fact my current and the five previous managers don't understand my job, mostly because I designed it from the ground up, and they never had enough time for me to explain it to them, assuming they were interested to learn, which never seemed to be the case. :rolleyes: My immediate superior defined my job. I was coasting along happily enough as a contractor billing n dollars an hour doing whatever was asked when she told me to take a permanent position. Now I'm the guy who looks at failing projects, works out why they're failing and turns them around. I don't get the high hourly rate anymore but these projects have annual budgets over 10 million so there's scope for reward in un****ing them. I work for money, nothing else, so the un****ing bonuses matter to me. I find the important thing when taking over a project is to dump the deadwood and motivate the important players. I don't need any trouble with that, if a person works well wherever he or she is and doesn't want to be moved, I don't want to move them. All I care about is delivering the work, I'm good with personal eccentricity, strange working hours, all kinds of people and domestic circumstances,. We've rescued two large projects during covid, recurring savings of about $8m/yr, so I'd say we've worked effectively. It is a great irritation to me when abstract considerations such as HR policies or a desire to see people in an office get in the way of delivering the project work. "Do a good job get paid lots of money" is my idea of an employment contract, not "look good at a desk 9-5 Monday to Friday, embrace our values and sing the company song on demand". I guess I'm not a very corporate person and I shouldn't expect a long career in middle management. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13102434)
..... It is a great irritation to me when abstract considerations such as HR policies or a desire to see people in an office get in the way of delivering the project work. "Do a good job get paid lots of money" is my idea of an employment contract, not "look good at a desk 9-5 Monday to Friday, embrace our values and sing the company song on demand".
I guess I'm not a very corporate person and I shouldn't expect a long career in middle management. Anyway I was told five years ago "review these contract files". "Review them for what?" I asked. "Just review them and approve them!" My manager snapped back. :blink: I set about reviewing them, wrote myself some procedures, and drafted some standards, which resulted in me somehow setting corporate policy without any participation from the legal department, or the involvement of any the six managers I had over the following five years. :rofl: And I also decided that being told to "approve files" implied that I had the power to reject them too. So when a contract proposal landed on my desk that didn't meet the standards that I myself had set, I rejected it. :D Occasionally someone has tried to call my bluff, but although my managers never really understood my job, they have always backed my decision. As one of my upstream colleagues told me once, everyone knows you're the person they have to get the file past. :o It's a shame that "everyone" doesn't just do their d*mn job properly. :frown: It would make my job easier, though not as interesting. |
Re: Masks
Interesting Twitter thread below regarding WFH.
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Danny B
(Post 13102488)
Interesting Twitter thread below regarding WFH.
https://twitter.com/InnovationMatt/s...-rhv-3lzrHCNBA |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 13102529)
Working from home needs to be in the interests of everyone though, the firm, the employee and the customer.
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13102537)
Isn't it always in the interests of the firm, no need to provide a building, and the employee, no need to commute?
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by printer
(Post 13102541)
her whole office duplicated at home and of course a mobile laptop and phone.
The customer interface in most businesses is through a website of some form, banking, financial services, retail, don't need physical premises anymore so it's weird for the customers to be at home and the workers not. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 13102254)
It's weird isn't it. Universally accepted that lockdowns - real ones where you can't really go out except for essential reasons - are bad for mental health but there still seems to be a desire for
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 13102537)
Isn't it always in the interests of the firm, no need to provide a building, and the employee, no need to commute?
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
(Post 13102572)
Yes it is weird... and its how see it, voluntary lockdown! I find the days are long and solitary, and can be hard on me, with zero interaction with other people. ....
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Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 13102646)
When I used to go to the office, most of the people I came into contact with were people that either [1] I didn't actually work with, and nodding as I pass them in a hallway, or standing by the coffee machine next to them, didn't add any value to my mental well being, or [2] were not colleagues but other people such as bus passengers or people on the street, etc, who I would prefer not to have come into contact with at all anyway.
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Re: Masks
I choose to work a hybrid pattern, generally Monday & Friday WFH and Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in the office. For me, this breaks the week up nicely, and my commute to work is a very pleasant 30 minute walk through the park. If I had a ghastly commute I would feel very differently.
As work travel restrictions have relaxed, I've enjoyed the opportunity to visit colleagues down in the London office for a few days away - aaah, who doesn't like combining work with a nice jolly and hotels & restaurants on expenses! - and soon will be able to visit our European sites again. We have proven that we can deliver multi-billion projects via remote working so there is no suggestion that people might be slacking from home, because they're not. As others have said, for many, WFH makes them more productive. If employers want people in offices, they're going to have to attract them back - flexible hours, the good biscuits or whatever - otherwise they will lose good people who just don't want (need) to commute. |
Re: Masks
Oh - masks,
Last week we had a road trip down to England to visit the kids at their universities. Mask wearing was, I reckon, less than 1%. Virtually non-existent. Here in Scotland it's still very high in indoor public spaces. |
Re: Masks
Originally Posted by Pulaski
(Post 13102646)
When I used to go to the office, most of the people I came into contact with were people that either [1] I didn't actually work with, and nodding as I pass them in a hallway, or standing by the coffee machine next to them, didn't add any value to my mental well being, or [2] were not colleagues but other people such as bus passengers or people on the street, etc, who I would prefer not to have come into contact with at all anyway.
Added to that I have always got along well with the people I work with that do the same job as me. Its where most of my close friends have originated from to this day, UK and Canada. So to suddenly have the interaction cut off has been hard going for me personally. As I said though I could live with a hybrid arrangement going forward. Monday and Friday at home and Tues Wed Thurs in office, I think that compromise would satisfy all needs for everyone. |
Re: Masks
I think I've posted this before, but the pandemic and working from home was a levelling experience for me. My employer has an office here, with around 150 people based here. Most of the people I work with (I'd use the term stakeholders but I know it would irritate dbd....) however are not based here but rather in London, DC, Saskatoon, Toulouse, Perth and other far flung places. With youngish kids, I'd found the flexibility of working from home outweighed the need to be in an office to talk to people on teams etc. and got used to being the one on teams when everyone else was in a meeting room in London. With Covid, we all were remote, all equal!
We've proved that can work very effectively and our working model has thus changed pretty much everywhere. People are no longer required to work in the office M-F with a few exceptions, so most work a hybrid model, from home part of the week, in the office a day or two. Different teams set different rules - my colleagues in London for example have to be in once a week for a team meeting. It seems to be working for most, particularly those with extended commutes. As an aside, in London, the division seems to be between those who can walk or cycle to the office, so are happy to go in frequently and those who have to spend hours on trains and tubes and would rather not inhale everyone else's omicron breath. Here in St John's, I had cause to go into the office yesterday and there were.....three people there. I think our need for a building to house 150 people has passed. I do believe its useful to get together with colleagues every now and then & see the benefit of going to an office. Personally, whats more significant is when we allow international travel again so I can make a quarterly trip to UK to meet the rest of my team and other colleagues. Our CFO is happy that we're not spending so many travel dollars so that's not yet possible. By the way on masking, all restrictions were dropped last Monday here in Nfld. Mask use in stores, however, remains high - >75% in my experience. Schools are keeping masks until Easter at least and you still have to mask in any healthcare facility. I'm still masking because, apart from the rampant nature of omicron, I'm recovering from surgery and that would only be complicated by a dose of covid. |
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