Lowri Turner
May 2nd 2012 | 5:09 am
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From: White Rock BC
Re: Lowri Turner
It is much easier here.
On welfare = under class
Work for a living = middle class
Live off the travails of the middle class = you don't care less what class other people think you are.
On welfare = under class
Work for a living = middle class
Live off the travails of the middle class = you don't care less what class other people think you are.
May 2nd 2012 | 5:12 am
#17
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Re: Lowri Turner
So what constitutes who is in what class? Is one middle class because of private education, professional qualifications, accent, home owner, cocaine habit, social standing and the circle of friends that you have, how much money you earn, how you hold your fork, or how you tip the soup bowl when finishing off. Perhaps if you have stout shoes and a tweed suit. Maybe it is what the old man had, before he left it all to his thai bride second wife? Anyone care to explain middle class criteria. Because if a bright kid from a council estate can get to uni and graduate as a doctor, I might consider him to be middle class. How about the guy, 27, done his degree and masters, working on a Phd, wants a job, can't get one and will live in poverty for the rest of his life, but he knows all about CAMRA and real ales, his he middle class? i just don't get it.
Canada roll on!
Canada roll on!
It's exactly the same in Canada as it is in the UK and i would wager most people don't pay any attention to it.
The only people to worry about it are those who have emotional issues.
May 2nd 2012 | 5:18 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
thank f*** for that. i take it that the last category are land/business owners, accountants, farmers, bankers and politicians.
May 2nd 2012 | 5:38 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
I remember a story of the Ryder Cup years ago. The last pairing was Jack Nicklaus and Tony Jacklin. The USA held the cup so a tie was all they needed to retain it. On the last green Nicklaus' ball was less that a foot from the hole and Jacklin was left with the twitchy six footer to win the hole and tie the overall score.
Nicklaus gave him the putt. When asked why he said that he didn't want to see Jacklin miss the putt and lose the Ryder Cup. Nicklaus has class.
May 2nd 2012 | 6:08 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
What exactly is the point of this thread? What are we supposed to be wondering? What's this Lowri turner got to do with it?
May 2nd 2012 | 6:11 am
#21
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Re: Lowri Turner
Class really means something different. IME people are much less likely to judge you on what you do, where you went to school, your accent, or how much money your family has. They judge you on what you contribute and and how you consider others.
I remember a story of the Ryder Cup years ago. The last pairing was Jack Nicklaus and Tony Jacklin. The USA held the cup so a tie was all they needed to retain it. On the last green Nicklaus' ball was less that a foot from the hole and Jacklin was left with the twitchy six footer to win the hole and tie the overall score.
Nicklaus gave him the putt. When asked why he said that he didn't want to see Jacklin miss the putt and lose the Ryder Cup. Nicklaus has class.
I remember a story of the Ryder Cup years ago. The last pairing was Jack Nicklaus and Tony Jacklin. The USA held the cup so a tie was all they needed to retain it. On the last green Nicklaus' ball was less that a foot from the hole and Jacklin was left with the twitchy six footer to win the hole and tie the overall score.
Nicklaus gave him the putt. When asked why he said that he didn't want to see Jacklin miss the putt and lose the Ryder Cup. Nicklaus has class.
May 2nd 2012 | 6:24 am
#23
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Re: Lowri Turner
May 2nd 2012 | 8:15 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
[QUOTE
=el_richo;10037711]The modern view on "class" is to do with accent, skin colour, and what you can afford. QUOTE]
Why contribute such twaddle!
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bare no relation...not even those personal circumstances as apparently reported for Oink.
FROTSUK
=el_richo;10037711]The modern view on "class" is to do with accent, skin colour, and what you can afford. QUOTE]
Why contribute such twaddle!
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bare no relation...not even those personal circumstances as apparently reported for Oink.
FROTSUK
Last edited by FirstRatofftheShipUK; May 2nd 2012 at 10:02 am.
May 2nd 2012 | 9:13 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
[QUOTE=FirstRatofftheShipUK;10038074]
You're a ****ing joke and so is this thread 
I'm surprised at your naivety
The modern view on "class" is to do with accent, skin colour, and what you can afford.
QUOTE]
Why contribute such twaddle!
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bear no relation.
FROTSUK
QUOTE]
Why contribute such twaddle!
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bear no relation.
FROTSUK
I'm surprised at your naivety
A green scouse that's loaded.
May 2nd 2012 | 9:50 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
I'm glad this thread is hotting up. I expected it to be a dry lament on the failings of English painters at spelling.
May 2nd 2012 | 9:55 am
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Re: Lowri Turner
Pedantic & Redundant
Last edited by FirstRatofftheShipUK; May 2nd 2012 at 10:00 am. Reason: Pedantic & Redundant
May 2nd 2012 | 9:57 am
#29
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Re: Lowri Turner
Why contribute such twaddle!
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bear no relation...not even those personal circumstances as apparently reported for Oink.
FROTSUK
Baroness Flather, a Life Peer of Asian descent, House of Lords, and her children in title, would no doubt take issue with your thinking here.
I was hoping for a sensible debate (again, I know, on BE!)
'Class' and colour bear no relation...not even those personal circumstances as apparently reported for Oink.
FROTSUK
May 2nd 2012 | 10:28 am
#30
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Re: Lowri Turner
Not forgetting born the wrong side of the tracks; blue collar; Preppy; Trailer trash; Ivy League; Country club; Hillbilly; and several other North American style expressions used to denote class distinction.
