Lowri Turner quote today: "White Van Man chat". Discuss in relation to a 'classless' Britain...

Who? And what are we supposed to be discussing?

Maybe it's because I'm only middle class, but I'm confused.

A recent poster asked if people in The UK still define themselves and others using 'class' as a determiner.

It seems that no day passes in The UK where 'class' is not discussed in the Media, one way or another. Therefore it would seem that 'class' is still important to a great majority of Britains.

Lowri Turner often seems to portray herself in the Media as the poster girl for the middle-to-upper Middle Class (if it exists).

Discuss if you wish.

FROTSUK

Yes, I've read that thread.

I would disagree with that, but then I didn't agree with your 'Person A v Person B' analogies in the thread either.

As an example, my father, who would have been very much a 'Person B' in your analogy i.e. had a working class father who couldn't afford to pay for education, attended Rugby school. One of the highest regarded and most expensive private schools in the country, and he got in with a scholarship so his background and lack of family money made bugger all difference.

If I knew who on earth she was I would do. Never heard of her before though.

Fair enough.

I thought Lowri Turner was going to be one of those firms of dodgy immigration lawyers.

Not enough names though Lowri Turner Evans Tompkins Smythe would fit that bill.

I think class does still exist in the UK..my older brother is a classic example..when he was eleven he passed the entrance exam to get a scholarship to an exclusive private school..then turned it down..as he didnt want to go to a school full of "snobs" as he put it..and went to our local comp instead...then he got loads of O levels and A levels all at grade A and passed the Oxbridge exam and even did latin and was offered a place at Cambridge..but again turned it down and went to Bradford as he felt he wanted to go to a working class university as he put for people like him.

Of course now although successful at what he does he regrets not going to private school or Cambridge because now he does not have the old boy network of upper class friends that could as he now puts it opened many more doors for him.

Had we been American he would have gone to that top school and gone to Harvard etc without a second thought.

As he would had he been Canadian.

I'm intrigued to learn that Lowri Turner is, in fact, a homophobic hynotherapist and "nutritional therapist". I'd not let her put my carrots under.

No, in fact, she is a Journo with The DM and routinely appears on Channel 5's WS.
Sure your Veggies are safe.
Fair Comment?

FROTSUK

Well, that's the homophobia confirmed.

Rejoinder accepted

I knew a bloke who was working class,
he lost his job and now he is middle class.
Everyone fits into some class or another in UK!

So what constitutes who is in what class? Is one middle class because of private education, professional qualifications, accent, home owner, cocaine habit, social standing and the circle of friends that you have, how much money you earn, how you hold your fork, or how you tip the soup bowl when finishing off. Perhaps if you have stout shoes and a tweed suit. Maybe it is what the old man had, before he left it all to his thai bride second wife? Anyone care to explain middle class criteria. Because if a bright kid from a council estate can get to uni and graduate as a doctor, I might consider him to be middle class. How about the guy, 27, done his degree and masters, working on a Phd, wants a job, can't get one and will live in poverty for the rest of his life, but he knows all about CAMRA and real ales, his he middle class? i just don't get it.

Canada roll on!