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Old Mar 23rd 2017, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Danny B
UK Police was formed on the principle of "policing by consent" rather than by force.

When I occasionally catch a glimpse of a UK cop show, I am still amazed that this principle still exists today. No guns, people placed under arrest without handcuffs and shoved into the back of a Police car with no prisoner partition.
Yes, good police system in the UK.
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Yes, good police system in the UK.

Yes very good.

I am amazed that in 2017 the UK police are still unarmed....but with these disgusting terrorist attacks on the rise....I can see that changing in the near future. It will be a sad day when it does happen.
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Old Mar 23rd 2017, 4:23 pm
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This sort of thing does not help the Muslim cause?? A question I ask is this Iman preached anti Jewish hate speak on Dec 23 last year, so why didn't anyone who was at the speech, in the mosque speak out about this when it actually happened ?

Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque draws police complaint - Montreal - CBC News
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This sort of thing does not help the Muslim cause?? A question I ask is this Iman preached anti Jewish hate speak on Dec 23 last year, so why didn't anyone who was at the speech, in the mosque speak out about this when it actually happened ?

Imam calling for Jews to be killed in sermon at Montreal mosque draws police complaint - Montreal - CBC News


This has been my point for a long time! if i were a devout muslim...i would be utterly appalled that my religion was being tarnished in this way.
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Khalid Masood, police today named the attacker and killer of three people.

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Old Mar 23rd 2017, 7:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Danny B
I think Trump Jr was trying to say that we should try and break this awful cycle instead of just accepting that these attacks are now part of living in a big city.
I think Trump Junior needs to focus on his and his father's own country then other countries terrorist precautions.
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Actually using a motorized vehicle is the perfect "weapon" to carry out such attacks. No need to buy and secrete guns, explosives, knives, chemicals and as exhibited by the Berlin Christmas attack. Many people can be killed and/or injured at one time, with a reasonable chance the culprit could get away.
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Old Mar 23rd 2017, 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by plasticcanuck
Actually using a motorized vehicle is the perfect "weapon" to carry out such attacks. No need to buy and secrete guns, explosives, knives, chemicals and as exhibited by the Berlin Christmas attack. Many people can be killed and/or injured at one time, with a reasonable chance the culprit could get away.
The vehicle used was a rental. Imagine how the guy feels who handed over the keys, obviously he had no idea this car was going to kill people but, how is that going to affect people who work in rental car businesses now when everyday Muslim looking folk go to rent or upgrade to a bigger SUV
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Yes very good.

I am amazed that in 2017 the UK police are still unarmed....but with these disgusting terrorist attacks on the rise....I can see that changing in the near future. It will be a sad day when it does happen.
Was the early 70's when I became a copper in Scotland. We all reckoned then that we would be armed within the following ten years or so. I retired early 2000's. More officers are armed now however, still not in general terms. I suppose it becomes more likely as time goes on, but still a ways away yet. Without considering any other factors, cost of doing so would be staggering! It's just a pity that the unfortunate officer murdered yesterday had not been armed as it's probable the outcome would have been different. Just an opinion. It certainly surprised me, given his duties, that he was not.
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It appears that the it was the bodyguard of a minister that in fact shot the attacker.
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Originally Posted by plasticcanuck
Actually using a motorized vehicle is the perfect "weapon" to carry out such attacks. No need to buy and secrete guns, explosives, knives, chemicals and as exhibited by the Berlin Christmas attack. Many people can be killed and/or injured at one time, with a reasonable chance the culprit could get away.
This is a common method of attack in Israel, sometimes using a piece of heavy construction equipment. They always get shot, but there are a lot of guns on the street in Israel.
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The new term seems to be "weaponising a car".
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There's a report in the guardian today about a photo

Photo of woman in hijab passing attack victim on bridge 'misappropriated'

Anti-Islam blogs claim that photograph taken in Westminster is evidence for Muslims’ indifference to suffering


The photographer who took the pics said “The people who took on that picture are being rather selective,” he said. “In the other picture in the sequence she looks truly distraught ... personally I think she looks distressed in both pictures. “It’s wrong it’s been misappropriated in that way.”

Using the image, I googled for where it had been used and came across an example of what the article was getting at.

It's a real eye-opener to see the stuff posted there, not just about this event but other stuff too.

It really makes you question just how much freedom of speech is good when you see so much prejudice and hateful stuff, especially when so much of it is demonstrably untrue.
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Originally Posted by BristolUK

It really makes you question just how much freedom of speech is good when you see so much prejudice and hateful stuff, especially when so much of it is demonstrably untrue.
Haven't seen that site, but in principle, freedom of speech is always the best policy. Without it, there isn't freedom of thought. The Americans have got this one right.
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Haven't seen that site
Here's a photo from it...they've doctored the image in the article I linked to

Spoiler:

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