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JamesM Aug 8th 2011 10:00 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9545676)
"The cause of all wars, riots and injustices is the existence of property." St. Augustine.

Isn't it supposed to be religion?

Oink Aug 8th 2011 10:02 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 9545710)
Isn't it supposed to be religion?

Not for St. Augustine he was one of those religious types.

Almost Canadian Aug 8th 2011 10:12 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9545701)
There have always been gangs in large cities but they didn't run riot.

I left school at the age of 14 in 1944 and there were jobs of all descriptions for young people plus at the age of 18 you had to spend 2 years in the military.

I was able to climb the job ladder due to taking evening classes and the excellent training I received in electronics in the RAF. I was in continuos employment for 48 years and only had one week unemployed.

I feel sorry for todays youth the deck is stacked against them especially young men.

Why do the youth have it so stacked against them?

I'm not suggesting you are making excuses for them, but that is what such sentiments sound like. "I ain't got nothing else to do but riot, rape, pillage etc. What's the world done for me?"

Dave n Ailsa Aug 8th 2011 10:23 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9545603)
One wonders why the papers never mention people looting small or medium screen televisions. It would seem much more practical to walk home with a more compact model and, anyway, in the relatively small living rooms of the UK, large television screens tend to look vulgar. Were I caught up in a riot, I think I'd look for something in the 22 to 24" range.

Don't be daft!

Your kids would get T-shirts made up saying...

"My Dad went out looting, and all I got was this lousy 22 inch LCD TV"

Keith Aug 8th 2011 10:29 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9545728)
Why do the youth have it so stacked against them?

I'm not suggesting you are making excuses for them, but that is what such sentiments sound like. "I ain't got nothing else to do but riot, rape, pillage etc. What's the world done for me?"

You hit the nail on the head. Most of the rioters are in the 18 to 25 age group and are virtually unemployable.
Got any good suggestions?

Oink Aug 8th 2011 10:38 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9545701)
There have always been gangs in large cities but they didn't run riot.

I left school at the age of 14 in 1944 and there were jobs of all descriptions for young people plus at the age of 18 you had to spend 2 years in the military.

I was able to climb the job ladder due to taking evening classes and the excellent training I received in electronics in the RAF. I was in continuos employment for 48 years and only had one week unemployed.

I feel sorry for todays youth the deck is stacked against them especially young men.


List of Riots ;)

CanadaJimmy Aug 8th 2011 10:38 am

Re: London Riots
 
It's quite obvious to me that this is linked to the record levels of youth unemployment in the UK. When people have no purpose if life they do stuff like this.

Keith Aug 8th 2011 10:46 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9545788)

I would suggest the big difference between the riots of the last 5 years and those of the past has been the age of the rioters ( exclusively young men) and the ability to communicate more efficiently. ( cellphones)

Oink Aug 8th 2011 11:05 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9545806)
I would suggest the big difference between the riots of the last 5 years and those of the past has been the age of the rioters ( exclusively young men) and the ability to communicate more efficiently. ( cellphones)


Does anyone notice a correlation between the chart rise of Cher Lloyd’s Swagger Jagger and the onset of the rioting? Existence has become meaningless and absurd to kids these days.

Jingsamichty Aug 8th 2011 11:13 am

Re: London Riots
 
If I were paranoid, I might think that this is all a naughty little MI5-triggered stunt to enable the government to force through draconian public order legislation ahead of soon-to-come civil unrest at job losses/budget cuts or even the Olympics. ;)

Police state here we come...

I think I'll set fire to the camp tonight and loot the vending machine for Twixes. Solidarnosc!

JamesM Aug 8th 2011 11:15 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9545761)
You hit the nail on the head. Most of the rioters are in the 18 to 25 age group and are virtually unemployable.
Got any good suggestions?

Put them on the front line in Afghanistan. Then when half of them make it back they'll appreciate the free and safe society London was once known for whether you were rich or poor, had a job or not.

JamesM Aug 8th 2011 11:16 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 9545882)
If I were paranoid, I might think that this is all a naughty little MI5-triggered stunt to enable the government to force through draconian public order legislation ahead of soon-to-come civil unrest at job losses/budget cuts or even the Olympics. ;)

Police state here we come...

I think I'll set fire to the camp tonight and loot the vending machine for Twixes. Solidarnosc!

I could see it in Tottenham, Peckham etc.......I am stunned at seeing Clapham High Street and Northcote Road on fire. My old hood man......:(

Just hoping the Falcon survives........

ergyngfeld Aug 8th 2011 11:21 am

Re: London Riots
 
i've been travelling for a few days so i'm a bit out of the loop... are they just mindless chavs? is it like Vancouver x 10? or Paris a few years back?

London always seemed like a different country to me...

Almost Canadian Aug 8th 2011 11:53 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 9545761)
You hit the nail on the head. Most of the rioters are in the 18 to 25 age group and are virtually unemployable.
Got any good suggestions?

What makes them virtually unemployable?

Alan2005 Aug 8th 2011 11:54 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9545972)
What makes them virtually unemployable?

Rioting. It's a vicious circle.


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