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Sally Redux Aug 10th 2011 6:59 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9551032)
The lie would be that he shot at the police, his bullet lodging in the radio (a claim Boy d made some pages back), but do we know that the police actually said that?

I was going by this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...an-police-ipcc

Almost Canadian Aug 10th 2011 7:01 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9551032)
The lie would be that he shot at the police, his bullet lodging in the radio (a claim Boy d made some pages back), but do we know that the police actually said that?

Do we know the police said anything? Some journalist quotes an unidentified person, people read the paper and all hell breaks loose.

Still, I guess it's all justified, what else are people to do when they feel aggrieved?

dbd33 Aug 10th 2011 7:03 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 9551041)

I read that denial but what I don't understand is where the idea that he shot originally came from, there doesn't seem to be anything in the circumstances to suggest it.

Boy d Aug 10th 2011 7:05 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9551032)
The lie would be that he shot at the police, his bullet lodging in the radio (a claim Boy d made some pages back), but do we know that the police actually said that?

That is what I meant. Police shootings are highly stressful and confused...if ihad a bullet in my radio, and knew a firearm had been recover I would probably assume it was bad guys. Our demand for immediate answers causes the police to jump the gun at times and media officers are simply reporting snippets of information they have personally ben given. Add media spin.......

Jingsamichty Aug 10th 2011 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 9550933)
[failed-education-system-people] Who or what are they? Ex heads of comprehensives;)

I would agree that many ex- and current heads of comprehensives are part of a failed education system.

But you know what my point was - I think it would be a safe bet that most of the looters now have more TVs than they do GCSEs.

Tangram Aug 10th 2011 7:19 am

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Not sure whether this has been posted, helpful link to video and updates for people with families in these areas :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

jimf Aug 10th 2011 7:31 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9551029)
Well no. The police have a miserable reputation for shooting innocent people. We've no reason to put more faith in what they thought than what he thought. For the moment, he's an alleged drug dealer and they're alleged careless users of firearms.

He's a confirmed carrier of an illegal handgun at the least and would have known the risk he was taking in that line of business. Looks like his choice was unwise in the end.

Alan2005 Aug 10th 2011 7:45 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Boy d (Post 9551054)
That is what I meant. Police shootings are highly stressful and confused...if ihad a bullet in my radio, and knew a firearm had been recover I would probably assume it was bad guys. Our demand for immediate answers causes the police to jump the gun at times and media officers are simply reporting snippets of information they have personally ben given. Add media spin.......

If I was a copper carrying a radio and found out that some other copper had been so inept that they actually shot me I'd be royally pissed off.

BristolUK Aug 10th 2011 8:04 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9551103)
He's a confirmed carrier of an illegal handgun at the least

Wasn't that also true of David Martin? Before Stephen Waldorf was shot, instead, in a case of mistaken identity?

mandsman Aug 10th 2011 8:18 am

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Perhaps the millionaire governors of the uk may heed these first warnings of discontent, as the western empires start to shrink , those who "have" protect their wealth, those who "have not" become the enemy and reach out and GRAB , there will be no status quo until the large banking houses are prepared to lower their profit expectations and put hugh amounts of cash into social benefit projects , these riots are the just beginning, because the less money in circulation the more competition, so come on you rich folk , stop the rot, the poor can`t

cheeky_monkey Aug 10th 2011 8:30 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 9551123)
If I was a copper carrying a radio and found out that some other copper had been so inept that they actually shot me I'd be royally pissed off.

apparently it was a ricochet that lodged in the radio....

dbd33 Aug 10th 2011 8:33 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9551103)
He's a confirmed carrier of an illegal handgun at the least and would have known the risk he was taking in that line of business. Looks like his choice was unwise in the end.

What line of business?

jimf Aug 10th 2011 8:55 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9551215)
What line of business?

Whatever line of business he was in that required the carrying of a handgun.

dbd33 Aug 10th 2011 8:56 am

Re: London Riots
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 9551256)
Whatever line of business he was in that required the carrying of a handgun.

Perhaps it was for recreational use, my guns are.

Alan2005 Aug 10th 2011 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by cheeky_monkey (Post 9551210)
apparently it was a ricochet that lodged in the radio....

ricochet eh? I'm not convinced. You know these SO 19 types - get a gun and they think they're lewis collins or something.

Not that any of this matters anymore, that shooting is long past being a reason. I'm just wondering if these riots can become self sustaining, a bit like those tyre fires that never go out.


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