Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 13105785)

Isn't that standard liberal procedure though.:( in addition to him having no substance.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 13105752)

They were unlikely to have voted for him under any circumstances. I can't think of anything that he has done that anyone would agree was a good thing. One could argue that his changes around the Canada Child Benefit were good but he did so without having any plan to pay for it so the deficit simply rose.

His environmental plans have fallen flat on their face which is why he appears to be panicking somewhat now.

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 13105752)

They were unlikely to have voted for him under any circumstances. I can't think of anything that he has done that anyone would agree was a good thing. One could argue that his changes around the Canada Child Benefit were good but he did so without having any plan to pay for it so the deficit simply rose.

His environmental plans have fallen flat on their face which is why he appears to be panicking somewhat now.

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 13104917)

Not enough has been made of this comment in this thread. The biggest problem with Canadian politics right now isn't the Liberals or the NDP, nor even the Bloc, but the complete disarray of the Conservative party. Harper at least had the force of personality to (more or less) steer all the wheels in the same direction, but under Scheer and then what's-his-name the nonentity (oh yes, O'Toole - I genuinely had to work to recall his name...), they've completely fallen off. The more noise the socially conservative right wing folks make, the more difficult it will be for the party to be even remotely appealing to a majority (sorry, a plurality)of the general electorate. With Bergen in interim "control" trying to stem the more ludicrous excesses, and with the likes of Poillievre making the running in the leadership election, there's little prospect of any meaningful opposition to Trudeau, let alone a potential party of government, any time soon. Trumpist populism has had its day (excepting Mr Kenney and his Cnut-like attempts to hold back the tide of sentiment in Alberta, of course...).

Trudeau has not done much for Canada since taking office - for sure, he's not had the easiest brief, with having had to deal with the US under Trump and then dealing with all the pandemic crap, but there's not much he's done that leaves Canada in a better position domestically or internationally than it was in in 2015. But he will be allowed to continue in his mediocrity if the Cons can't produce a charismatic and electable leadership candidate with the political nous to realize playing to a diminishing base will not get them to government.