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Hawk13 Nov 26th 2014 2:51 am

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So, on my route back and forth to work they have erected some new highway signs. In the past they have have tried just lettered signs like:

"Slower Traffic Keep right"

"Keep Right Except to Pass"

Now they have this one "Keep Right Let Others Pass" with an interesting picture on what to do.

Is it just me or is the picture all wrong? When I first saw it I thought, jeez that's what I do, come up behind the slow driver then move over to the right lane and pass them. Then someone pointed out that you're suppose to be the "green" car with "speed" streams behind it. Really? then shouldn't I be behind the "black" car with the speed streams which would then depict the black car moving over for me in the speeding green car?

Is it just me?

Hemi Dave Nov 26th 2014 2:58 am

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Yeah, I'm with you, that's a terrible sign!

I've noticed a lot of fundemental flaws in the traffic systems here. Pet hate is sharing a green light with pedestrians when turning into a street. Truelly awfull and dangerous system.

iaink Nov 26th 2014 3:21 am

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Its ambiguous at best.

It would be better if it showed the faster passing car also moving to the right after passing the slower black car.

But if it makes a few motorists think to pull over out of the way of someone coming up behind them if they arent passing anyone themselves then its a good sign.

Its the drivers that come up behind you on the highway while you are at the back of a long line in the left hand land stuck as a truck slowly overtakes another truck half a mile ahead, who chose to undertake down the right and then cut into the overtaking stream at the last minute that really drive me nuts.
I cant help myself, I have to close up on the car infront so that they have no way to get in, and I know thats stupid/ unsafe. But seriously, just join the line like everyone else and dont be a dick!

dbd33 Nov 26th 2014 3:23 am

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Originally Posted by Hawk13 (Post 11484810)
So, on my route back and forth to work they have erected some new highway signs. In the past they have have tried just lettered signs like:

"Slower Traffic Keep right"

"Keep Right Except to Pass"

Now they have this one "Keep Right Let Others Pass" with an interesting picture on what to do.

Is it just me or is the picture all wrong? When I first saw it I thought, jeez that's what I do, come up behind the slow driver then move over to the right lane and pass them. Then someone pointed out that you're suppose to be the "green" car with "speed" streams behind it. Really? then shouldn't I be behind the "black" car with the speed streams which would then depict the black car moving over for me in the speeding green car?

Is it just me?

I interpret that as, I'm in the black car, I should whiz around on the right trying not to disturb the Canadian bobbling along in the left in his hat.

Piff Poff Nov 26th 2014 4:16 am

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That is a terrible sign, confusing.

AlliF Nov 26th 2014 4:36 am

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Originally Posted by Hemi Dave (Post 11484823)
Pet hate is sharing a green light with pedestrians when turning into a street. Truelly awfull and dangerous system.

Totally agree.
And when trying to cross a dual carriageway there are traffic lights here that barely give you time to cross the first lane before the red hand starts flashing at which point the drivers all put the accelerator to the floor - regardless of whether you are midway or not. :blink:

Oink Nov 26th 2014 4:36 am

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Thought it was fine.

Zoe Bell Nov 26th 2014 4:42 am

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to me and my weird sense of spatial awareness, it looks like the green car is going backwards

magnumpi Nov 26th 2014 4:50 am

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That's a under taking here sign

withabix Nov 26th 2014 5:07 am

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That traffic sign is appalling!


Originally Posted by Hemi Dave (Post 11484823)
fundemental flaw.....is sharing a green light with pedestrians when turning into a street. Truelly awfull and dangerous system.

Welcome to the Grid System.

Fundamentally flawed by having traffic signals with pedestrian crossings with vehicle conflict at almost every intersection.

Nearly all intersections could be improved by having a single dedicated pedestrian phase on all legs at once with no vehicle pedestrian conflict.

Congestion would increase a little and that is the problem in Canada and USA where the car rules and there are very few pedestrians outside city centres, in comparison with European countries.

More roundabouts would also be useful, but then of course Canadians would have to a) learn to use indicators and b) not stop half way round to give way to a vehicle entering c) give way to vehicles on the roundabout.

iaink Nov 26th 2014 5:12 am

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The traffic light / pedestrian thing is only a problem if you are not used to the system. Anyone who learned to drive here (or had to take the test before they just swapped licences) is hopefully aware enough to makes sure they dont run over any pedestrians.

Hemi Dave Nov 26th 2014 6:08 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 11485017)
The traffic light / pedestrian thing is only a problem if you are not used to the system. Anyone who learned to drive here (or had to take the test before they just swapped licences) is hopefully aware enough to makes sure they dont run over any pedestrians.

I agree with you in essence, but I recently watched a news report about all the people killed at such crossings, 28 I think last year, with about 37 thousand injured each year. They blamed both drivers AND pedestrians for not taking better care, but at no time did they even hint at the design being flawed.

Just because a system has been in place for decades does not make it a good system.

Shard Nov 26th 2014 6:22 am

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It makes sense to me and is a good sign. The problem is that most drivers aren't familiar with the concept of giving way to a faster vehicle, and many are instinctively against it.

So this sign is as much about education as reminding drivers of the obvious. It's saying to slow black car drivers, "hey, get the fork out of the way if there's a fast green car behind you". (Note to BC drivers: the colours in the above example are interchangeable.)

dbd33 Nov 26th 2014 6:35 am

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Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11485107)
"hey, get the fork out of the way if there's a fast green car behind you".

That's the wrong message though. That results in drivers who move right when you flash them (well, flash them numerous times, honk and wave your fist out of the window) and then immediately move back left. The proper message is Keep Right Except to Pass.

Shard Nov 26th 2014 6:42 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11485126)
That's the wrong message though. That results in drivers who move right when you flash them (well, flash them numerous times, honk and wave your fist out of the window) and then immediately move back left. The proper message is Keep Right Except to Pass.

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