Keep Right
 

So, on my route back and forth to work they have erected some new highway signs. In the past they have have tried just lettered signs like:

"Slower Traffic Keep right"

"Keep Right Except to Pass"

Now they have this one "Keep Right Let Others Pass" with an interesting picture on what to do.

Is it just me or is the picture all wrong? When I first saw it I thought, jeez that's what I do, come up behind the slow driver then move over to the right lane and pass them. Then someone pointed out that you're suppose to be the "green" car with "speed" streams behind it. Really? then shouldn't I be behind the "black" car with the speed streams which would then depict the black car moving over for me in the speeding green car?

Is it just me?

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Yeah, I'm with you, that's a terrible sign!

I've noticed a lot of fundemental flaws in the traffic systems here. Pet hate is sharing a green light with pedestrians when turning into a street. Truelly awfull and dangerous system.

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Its ambiguous at best.

It would be better if it showed the faster passing car also moving to the right after passing the slower black car.

But if it makes a few motorists think to pull over out of the way of someone coming up behind them if they arent passing anyone themselves then its a good sign.

Its the drivers that come up behind you on the highway while you are at the back of a long line in the left hand land stuck as a truck slowly overtakes another truck half a mile ahead, who chose to undertake down the right and then cut into the overtaking stream at the last minute that really drive me nuts.
I cant help myself, I have to close up on the car infront so that they have no way to get in, and I know thats stupid/ unsafe. But seriously, just join the line like everyone else and dont be a dick!

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I interpret that as, I'm in the black car, I should whiz around on the right trying not to disturb the Canadian bobbling along in the left in his hat.

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That is a terrible sign, confusing.

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Totally agree.
And when trying to cross a dual carriageway there are traffic lights here that barely give you time to cross the first lane before the red hand starts flashing at which point the drivers all put the accelerator to the floor - regardless of whether you are midway or not. :blink:

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Thought it was fine.

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to me and my weird sense of spatial awareness, it looks like the green car is going backwards

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That's a under taking here sign

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That traffic sign is appalling!

Welcome to the Grid System.

Fundamentally flawed by having traffic signals with pedestrian crossings with vehicle conflict at almost every intersection.

Nearly all intersections could be improved by having a single dedicated pedestrian phase on all legs at once with no vehicle pedestrian conflict.

Congestion would increase a little and that is the problem in Canada and USA where the car rules and there are very few pedestrians outside city centres, in comparison with European countries.

More roundabouts would also be useful, but then of course Canadians would have to a) learn to use indicators and b) not stop half way round to give way to a vehicle entering c) give way to vehicles on the roundabout.

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The traffic light / pedestrian thing is only a problem if you are not used to the system. Anyone who learned to drive here (or had to take the test before they just swapped licences) is hopefully aware enough to makes sure they dont run over any pedestrians.

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I agree with you in essence, but I recently watched a news report about all the people killed at such crossings, 28 I think last year, with about 37 thousand injured each year. They blamed both drivers AND pedestrians for not taking better care, but at no time did they even hint at the design being flawed.

Just because a system has been in place for decades does not make it a good system.

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It makes sense to me and is a good sign. The problem is that most drivers aren't familiar with the concept of giving way to a faster vehicle, and many are instinctively against it.

So this sign is as much about education as reminding drivers of the obvious. It's saying to slow black car drivers, "hey, get the fork out of the way if there's a fast green car behind you". (Note to BC drivers: the colours in the above example are interchangeable.)

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That's the wrong message though. That results in drivers who move right when you flash them (well, flash them numerous times, honk and wave your fist out of the window) and then immediately move back left. The proper message is Keep Right Except to Pass.

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Rome wasn't built in a day !

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Maybe if the highways had the ability to handle the volume of traffic more could stay in the right lane, but in parts of the lower mainland there is far too much traffic for just the right lane to handle, so traffic has to move into the left lane regardless of speed.

Just another failure in the BC highway system though, some reason they have an inability to build efficient highways in BC.

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For me, the sign would make more sense looking like this.

(excuse the quick cut and paste skills)

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Yeah but what's a Leather Ass? ;)

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Haha. Maybe that could be the penalty for not moving over. A good smack of leather across your ass!

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You'd no doubt love it if the roads were peppered with such signs.

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:lol:

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I would not. I don't care for undertaking vehicles. It is a local custom I've adopted grudgingly.

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The PITA thing ive noticed on Alberta highways is the signs say "Slower traffic keep right" hence people in the left lane doing the speed limit think its okay to be there just because they're doing 110, when the rest of the traffic wants to go 120-130.

You are not the law because you're doing the speed limit in the outside lane, you're actually a hazard and creating more danger

if i want to risk a ticket by going 10 over then thats my prerogative

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+1 on the roundabouts. The other day I got literally yelled at for commenting that they should remove the all way stop near my school that backs up traffic for a good half kilometre every morning and afternoon with every.single.car having to stop at the sign before moving through, and replace it with a roundabout. They asked me if my aim was to increase the risk of pedestrians getting run over in the roundabout? :confused: Roundabouts are safer for pedestrians....

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I dont think they are. Cars dont stop at roundabouts so even though pedestrians may theoretically have the right of way they never get to exercise it.

I do agree on swapping 4ways for roundabouts though. Its happening more often around my area so there is hope yet for sensible traffic management in Canada.

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That is true... And it is Canada, the country of err. questionable driving

Yeah, I hope they swap more of them out. I hate 4ways.

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They have even put some roundabouts now in some of the congested streets in San Diego where 4 way stop signs used to exist, was surprised to see them on this last trip.

We have a few roundabouts in town here in Squamish, people tend to still stop before entering. Yield seems to = stop in people's minds.

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Where's the french version? Perhaps it's more clear...

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You might want to think about that a bit.

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In the rest of the Lower Mainland:

Stop = reduce speed by 25% and keep going (unless 100% certain to T-bone someone)

Yield = Merge dangerously in front of the other car that has the right of way, forcing them to take avoiding action

Merge = Drive up the right lane (or verge) and force your way in further ahead because your truck has a 'lift' and you have a small willy.

Red = Stop only if you are 100% certain to T-bone someone or you are the fifth car after the lights went Red.

Right Turn on Red = Especially recommended if you cause someone turning Left into the same lane to take avoiding action

The other one that 'amuses' me is:

Green = I got to the lights first when they were Red, so when they turn Green I'm going to treat it the same way as a 4-way stop and turn left across the vehicle that's going straight on...

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Young man, at your age. ;)

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No comment;)

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That's the joke.

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This apparently happened this week in BC. I suspect the driver who took the footage might get a ticket for "driving without due care and attention"... not that the accident is his fault, of course.

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One of my favourite French signs from Brittany.

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I doubt it, the news locally reported it was a dash cam so no hands needed to operate it.

Now the guy in the crashed car, he got a few tickets, the police said they come to about 700 in fines, so not much for someone who can drive that kind of car.