Ditto. The troublemakers here are not hockey fans. They are the usual black clad anarchists with black bandanas who are using this crowd as an excuse to loot and burn. Not to worry... they are all being filmed on TV cameras, security cameras and cell phones and will no doubt find themselves before a judge soon.

Unlike you though, I do not hope to see anyones skull broken. At least the police are using some restraint unlike the police violence at the G8 conference in Toronto. It is however disgusting to see the live TV shots of all the looting that is going on. What is the matter with people????

As a Man Utd fan for over 35 years I resent your comment. In all my years as a supporter on the terraces, both home and away, I've never witnessed a riot like that in Vancouver tonight.

And furthermore, whilst I agree that the British footy fan has had a bad reputation they are by no means the worst offenders for footy violence. Such riots are almost commonplace between certain clubs in countries such as South America, Turkey, Italy, Russia and France.

Also, much of the violence is generally created by 'organised thugs' hell bent on causing trouble rather than genuine fans, whatever the sport may be, and I'm pretty sure the same can be said of the violence in Vancouver tonight.

oi - we have told you once http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=721149

I'll bet he was always last to be picked for a game

You're almost correct, I never got picked......I was the team captain and did the picking!!
The same with the rugby and cricket teams. I was known as 'sport Billy' at school!

Sorry 4Bells, I took offence to the comment about Man Utd fans and just had to respond!

Anyway, am gonna shuffle on off to bed now, g'night all...

Been here only a week and a half! We have been to Vancouver many times and have just got a place in Burnaby. But in the meantime been staying in False Creek, so can see the smoke plumes across the beautiful city scape.

I come from Liverpool so used to football violence and idiot football rioting fans, so really sad to see this in such a beautiful, friendly city.

Not put me off Vancouver at all...I love it here. And don't be put if you are moving here.

But rioting in any city is stupid, so let's hope all the photos that have been taken on cell phones get those idiots!

No worries - nighty night

am now off to bed as dear daughter has returned from Dt - phew....

2 riots in 20 years aint bad. Just a Saturday night in Toxteth!

yup _ I did comment earlier to a colleague her, along the lines of: oh come at least try and do proper like, give it a Brixton or a Toxteth feel ..I got blank looks! When I started mentioning severed heads they went pale . ..

I think I just got a semi.

You really believe this? This isn't the same people that riot at world trade conventions or the G7 - you might not call them 'true hockey fans', but that's the same as saying somebody isn't a 'true scotsman'

Manchester United fans are from Southern England, Asia and a few in North America. There is no point rioting as there is nothing near Old Trafford that would cause any disturbance. Besides they all have to get back on their tourist buses to get out of the city so no time to riot or they miss the bus.

Besides they know they have the most money so they'll just win the league again next year because they are so good. It's such a great club I would love to associate myself with it.

Back on with the Hockey and I think Souvy's prediction whilst being kind of predictable was accurate.

What did happen to Vancouver? Two highly focused first games and then they just seem to lose their ability to create goals.

This is the first game I watched. Based on this site, I was expecting the home team to be elegant and full of skill and the visitors to be unskilled and bruisers. Most of the shitty hits came from the home team, the visitors, on this one game, were the more skilled by a long way. It would appear that the best team won.

The first goal came later than would have made my prediction bang-on. I gave up after the short-handed and went to bed. When I woke up this morning, I was expecting to read of a bigger loss.