I find this very disturbing.
#106
Re: I find this very disturbing.
I've always thought that if I'm wrong and there is a God then when I wander up to the pearly gates he/she won't give me too hard of a time. I'll have lived a decent life because I wanted to and not because of the fear of hell or the bribery of heaven.
#107
Re: I find this very disturbing.
But thats the thing - why do you think that by living a decent life you will go to heaven?
Like I said before if "god" gave everyone free will, then it is up to us to use it as we see fit - and if we do that then we will have led a full and relatively happy life because we are living our lives as we choose. Therefore when we die - our souls will be fulfilled (having experienced what we needed to) - and will therefore be in "heaven".
I also don't believe in a hell either - just the souls need to keep returning to earth to experience different things until it is fulfilled!!!!!
(I'm now waiting for Bazzz to come along and tell me to read his signature!)
Like I said before if "god" gave everyone free will, then it is up to us to use it as we see fit - and if we do that then we will have led a full and relatively happy life because we are living our lives as we choose. Therefore when we die - our souls will be fulfilled (having experienced what we needed to) - and will therefore be in "heaven".
I also don't believe in a hell either - just the souls need to keep returning to earth to experience different things until it is fulfilled!!!!!
(I'm now waiting for Bazzz to come along and tell me to read his signature!)
#108
Re: I find this very disturbing.
My point was that if I'm wrong and judgement day comes, then come my turn in front of the 'big guy upstairs' I'll have lived a 'good' life (as defined by common christian values).
The only thing is I'll have done it because I think it's right.
The only thing is I'll have done it because I think it's right.
#109
Re: I find this very disturbing.
And thats how i live mine too (along with the phrase - well it felt good at the time too!)!!!!!
#110
Re: I find this very disturbing.
Just to go off on a tangent, we're covering the (in)correctness of forcing religion on children but what about vegetarians.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
#113
Re: I find this very disturbing.
Just to go off on a tangent, we're covering the (in)correctness of forcing religion on children but what about vegetarians.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
May seem extreme, but I want them to absolutely believe that the choices they make affect their lives in more than just one way....becoming something or another - in this case Vegetarian....isn't a food fad thing...you don't always have to eat meat without being veggie....but you don't just do it for a laugh or to make a statement to your mates....its a life choice and one you should abide by if you choose a particular path...well you could go on adinfinituem....
Like many of us say - life is about choice and (wait for it....don't start but, but, but) the girls have their meat, it is their choice to actually eat it....one eats green stuff the other one doesn't - but she still gets it!
They are not being deprived but nor are they being forced even though their father and I (do eat some meat free meals) would rather be omnivourous than vegetarian.
Wow what a side track....
BTW - does your friend wear leather shoes....?
Last edited by Harrypottermouse; Jun 10th 2008 at 10:17 pm.
#114
Re: I find this very disturbing.
Just to go off on a tangent, we're covering the (in)correctness of forcing religion on children but what about vegetarians.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
A friend of mine from Uni has never eaten meat, his parents are both staunch veggies so he grew up without meat. Now he's away from the folks he can't be convinced that chowing down on dead animal carcass is a good thing.
Seeing as you raised the subject..............I have been a vegetarian for nearly 25 years; I was raised a carnivore and am the only veggie in the family. I decided against meat-eating when I was old enough to question the world around me.
#116
Re: I find this very disturbing.
[QUOTE=Harrypottermouse;6454708]
BTW - does your friend wear leather shoes....?[/QUOTE]
The usual "trip-up" question posed to veggies by carnivores! And whilst this question was not directed at me, I shall answer anyway, in anticipation of it being asked:
I do not wear leather shoes, watch strap or clothes; I do not wear fur or animal skin of any type. I clean my teeth with a vegan toothpaste, and I check labels of everything I eat for all the hidden animal ingredients. I use soya milk only.
As I said, this is anticipation, as I can just feel the questions coming..........
BTW - does your friend wear leather shoes....?[/QUOTE]
The usual "trip-up" question posed to veggies by carnivores! And whilst this question was not directed at me, I shall answer anyway, in anticipation of it being asked:
I do not wear leather shoes, watch strap or clothes; I do not wear fur or animal skin of any type. I clean my teeth with a vegan toothpaste, and I check labels of everything I eat for all the hidden animal ingredients. I use soya milk only.
As I said, this is anticipation, as I can just feel the questions coming..........
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Re: I find this very disturbing.
When I was a kid, I ate meat. Then I ate a veggie diet for 22 years. Now I eat meat. I'm trying to understand what you're inferring but my meat-fueled brains cell can't cope with th... oh, look a baby squirrel!!!