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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Maple Leaf (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/)
-   -   How posh are you? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/maple-leaf-98/how-posh-you-815388/)

bats Nov 19th 2013 2:36 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998103)
mimicking ...... posh is more an accent" - well I never knew that

I could fake posh now (even speaking with the North West accent) far better than I could have 40 years ago. And BTW, being Uni educated does not make a person posh in most any of the points that you made ....
Apart from the gibberish of the last few words...

I said education with no mention of university.

Oink Nov 19th 2013 2:37 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10998130)
Clearly there are class differences in Canada, and speech variation is one identifier of differences. However the broader point is that Canadians don't generally seek to class differentiate with the same highly developed and reflexive skill that Brits do. This isn't to say none do, simply that is not prevalent.

Looking at the issue in reverse: in Britain, "poshness" tends not to be judged by house or car, despite there being a fairly standard correlation. There are exceptions to this notion (the county of Essex comes to mind - sorry Oink) but in general wealth is not measure. Same goes for accent in Canada.
Human's seem to have a need to stratify, its probably an extension of the family and clan. Britain has had thousands of years experience and practice of cultural classification and stratification. Those categories didn't fit neatly into the north American experience. Depending on their history they have developed their own different and sometimes unique forms division and thus discrimination.

Oink Nov 19th 2013 2:38 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998146)
Apart from the gibberish of the last few words...

I said education with no mention of university.
If not formal schooling, what configurations of education do you mean?

bats Nov 19th 2013 2:39 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998141)
it's Mam not Mum. Only posh folks call their mother "Mum"
No, they call her Mummy, or Mother, or Mama. Dads are Daddy or Papa.

Oink Nov 19th 2013 2:45 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998141)
it's Mam not Mum. Only posh folks call their mother "Mum"
The problem here is the term "posh" is a rather large, wobbly and fuzzy concept which is difficult to define and thus nearly impossible to use to generalize.

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 2:46 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998156)
No, they call her Mummy, or Mother, or Mama. Dads are Daddy or Papa.
Mater and Pater, innit?

bats Nov 19th 2013 2:48 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10998163)
Mater and Pater, innit?
If you're Bertie Wooster.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 2:53 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998146)
Apart from the gibberish of the last few words...

I said education with no mention of university.
correct, I said University.

Now as for the drivel - would you agree with me the posh folks that go to university will forever always be posh & the posh status can be lost when they lose their wealth, house & home, ending up on a council estate on welfare (still speaking posh) - or is it that disadvantaged child from the council estate that will never ever be posh even if and or when they succeed to show the world they (as an example) become the Prime minister married into wealth?

Wealth is not posh

Accent is not posh

Grooming is not posh

Position in the world scene is not posh

Elevated status is not posh

so what is posh?

Oink Nov 19th 2013 2:54 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998172)
correct, I said University.

Now as for the drivel - would you agree with me the posh folks that go to university will forever always be posh & the posh status can be lost when they lose their wealth, house & home, ending up on a council estate on welfare (still speaking posh) - or is it that disadvantaged child from the council estate that will never ever be posh even if and or when they succeed to show the world they (as an example) become the Prime minister married into wealth?

Wealth is not posh

Accent is not posh

Grooming is not posh

Position in the world scene is not posh

Elevated status is not posh

so what is posh?
Posh is the new chav.

bats Nov 19th 2013 2:54 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10998153)
If not formal schooling, what configurations of education do you mean?
Where's your question come from? I did not dismiss formal schooling in my post, i said education, but if you want some examples: prep school, independent school, public school, plus the stuff wot yer parents learn ya.

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 2:56 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998168)
If you're Bertie Wooster.
It's just a Volkswagen, honest.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 2:57 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10998163)
Mater and Pater, innit?
there you go again sounding all posh

me Irish Mam is 'mudder' along with me Welsh 'tad'

Sally Redux Nov 19th 2013 2:58 am
Re: How posh are you?
 

not2old Nov 19th 2013 2:59 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10998173)
Posh is the new chav.

I wonder if the word, term & usage 'chav' could be trademarked or patented?

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:01 am
Re: How posh are you?
 
Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998174)
Where's your question come from? I did not dismiss formal schooling in my post, i said education, but if you want some examples: prep school, independent school, public school, plus the stuff wot yer parents learn ya.
This thread is about 'posh'.

On the OP it asked the question about schooling ..... my response was Primary - Secondary

4. What type of schools did you go to?

Primary - Secondary
Primary - Public
Prep - Secondary
Prep - Public


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