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Oink Nov 19th 2013 3:26 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998230)
Are you saying Honey Boo Boo is Posh, or that Boris Johnson is like Honey Boo Boo :confused:

All I know is that Posh is "Pants"

Beckham eastend boy, will he ever be "posh" with all his money? I doubt it

Maybe, if he applied himself.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:27 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10998225)
Of course not. "lawyer" is a trade.

wot, how do you figure that?

Again I had to google & every reference to 'lawyer' is that it is a profession - seedy reference

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 3:27 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10998233)
Maybe, if he applied himself.

Perhaps, if he married well.

Sally Redux Nov 19th 2013 3:29 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998234)
wot, how do you figure that?

Again I had to google & every reference to 'lawyer' is that it is a profession - seedy reference

If you have to google, you're not posh.

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 3:30 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998234)
wot, how do you figure that?

Again I had to google & every reference to 'lawyer' is that it is a profession - seedy reference

If one were posh, one would not engage in trade. To differentiate between trades of differing natures, as you have done, is a trait of hoi polloi.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:30 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998230)

Beckham eastend boy, will he ever be "posh" with all his money? I doubt it

is wife is posh spice ....

Beckham is only money posh for now

Oakvillian Nov 19th 2013 3:31 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998220)
Could this status be posh?

Quite aside from dbd's point (which I suppose is valid, although there are very few people even in the proper upper classes who do not practice some form of trade or profession these days), posh people would never "go on" about cars, or clothes, or toys, and especially not with somebody who does not have access to the same things.

One of the things the English (in all social strata) are very good at is not talking about, or bragging about, money. Harry Enfield's Loadsamoney character in the 80s was funny at least in part because the whole concept of a wealthy stock jobber splashing it all about was so alien to UK society at the time. This is not really the case in Canada; much less so again in the US.

Kate Fox's book "Watching the English" is very good on this, if you want to learn about social stratification and class perceptions in today's society.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:32 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10998238)
If you have to google, you're not posh.

thanks;)

Makes you wonder how many BE members pay too much for their ISP so they can be posh

Oakvillian Nov 19th 2013 3:36 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998245)
is wife is posh spice ....

Beckham is only money posh for now

"money posh"?

Being wealthy does not make you posh - I thought we'd established that. Class and wealth are two very different things. Just look at all the McMansions with their hideous gold-plated fittings to understand that...

Alan Clark, a properly posh British politician, had a wonderful put-down of the (to his mind) arriviste Michael Heseltine. Something along the lines of "Good God, he's the sort of man who probably has to buy his own furniture."

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:37 am

Re: How posh are you?
 
Are you British posh

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-People-Believe-You're-British

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...vey-finds.html

Our great posh pretense: One in five people change their accent to sound more posh to get a job or chat someone up, survey finds

not2old Nov 19th 2013 3:42 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10998248)
Quite aside from dbd's point (which I suppose is valid, although there are very few people even in the proper upper classes who do not practice some form of trade or profession these days), posh people would never "go on" about cars, or clothes, or toys, and especially not with somebody who does not have access to the same things.

I guess its all down to the definition of posh

What is your personal definition of posh?

Oakvillian Nov 19th 2013 3:46 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998272)

What is your personal definition of posh?

Genteel. Well bred, refined, suitable to be in polite society.

Yours?

BristolUK Nov 19th 2013 3:47 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10998130)
Clearly there are class differences in Canada, and speech variation is one identifier of differences. However the broader point is that Canadians don't generally seek to class differentiate with the same highly developed and reflexive skill that Brits do. This isn't to say none do, simply that is not prevalent.

I'd still dispute that. Where there's a difference, maybe, is that Brits may focus on both ends of the scale, expressing disapproval for lah-di-dah posh gits and chavs/benefits 'scroungers' whereas Canadians are more likely to focus exclusively on the "welfare" crowd.

And politicians. ;)

Oink Nov 19th 2013 3:48 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10998279)
Genteel. Well bred, refined, suitable to be in polite society.

Yours?

My nan says she’s posh because she doesn’t line up outside the toilets in the Mecca like Ethel and Betty, to give Sid the Caller a nosh off for an extra punch card.

Oakvillian Nov 19th 2013 3:51 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10998285)
My nan says she’s posh because she doesn’t line up outside the toilets in the Mecca like Ethel and Betty, to give Sid the Caller a nosh off for an extra punch card.

Your nan, Oink, is posher than posh. Sid the caller has unpleasant diseases, anyway - she's better off keeping her teeth in and concentrating on the cards she does have.

bats Nov 19th 2013 4:05 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998201)
bollocks



bollocks again




do you do that, if so, how hard do you try to elevate yourself outside of your non-posh comfort zone?

Before you turn it back on me - I don't give a flying crap about posh anything or folks who are or that get elevated (put on pedestals) to the appearance of posh annoyance - poor & disadvantaged is the new posh

'Bollocks' isn't a well reasoned argument.

You seem to be hanging on to the idea that to be posh is to be better. It isn't, and it isn't to be worse. It is just different.

To answer your question, how hard do I try? Like anyone else it would depend on how much i want to fit in, to be accepted. I have tried in the past, these days i make no conscious effort but i know my accent changes depending on who i am talking to.

Oink Nov 19th 2013 4:08 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998317)
'Bollocks' isn't a well reasoned argument.

You seem to be hanging on to the idea that to be posh is to be better. It isn't, and it isn't to be worse. It is just different.

To answer your question, how hard do I try? Like anyone else it would depend on how much i want to fit in, to be accepted. I have tried in the past, these days i make no conscious effort but i know my accent changes depending on who i am talking to.

It is a bit.

ultrarunner Nov 19th 2013 4:13 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10998248)
posh people would never "go on" about cars, or clothes, or toys, and especially not with somebody who does not have access to the same things.

One of the things the English (in all social strata) are very good at is not talking about, or bragging about, money.

Oaky,

You are indeed correct that the "well to do type" won't be caught dead talking about wonga, however they do it subliminally by exhibiting it obvious ways...cars, clothing, vacations, hotels they stay at et al

Simon Cowell was once asked by Graham Norton, if he will ever drive a Miata? Simon's response..."are you mad", my friends will never speak to me again


Genteel. Well bred, refined, suitable to be in polite society
Hmmm....this is debatable and open to interpretation

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 4:14 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998332)
Simon Cowell was once asked by Graham Norton, if he will ever drive a Miata? Simon's response..."are you mad", my friends will never speak to me again

Surely Simon Cowell is the antithesis of posh. He's just rich.

BristolUK Nov 19th 2013 4:16 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998317)
but i know my accent changes depending on who i am talking to.

We used to have a piano at home. We pronounced it pianno.

Depending on who she was talking to, my mum would change it to piah-no.

Sounds more like a perfume. Or should I say scent? :lol:

Oakvillian Nov 19th 2013 4:19 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998332)
Hmmm....this is debatable and open to interpretation

Not really. That's an excerpt from the concise OED.

As for your other point on Cowell, dbd's said it already. If he is your exemplar of posh, you have entirely misunderstood the concept.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 4:22 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Oakvillian (Post 10998279)
Genteel. Well bred, refined, suitable to be in polite society.

Yours?

I cannot define posh because it has no meaning.

Well bred is a difficult one for me, other than relating to say the Royal family who IMO are all cocked up bred based on wealth

Cultured - well, I guess that has to be defined for someone who cannot relate. Possibly again using the Royal Family. Could it be the clothes they wear, manners, grooming is different from what I do or wear? I suppose cultured could be viewed differently by folks from different walks of life

How folks speak (accent) as long as I sort of get what they're saying I'm OK- for me they'd just be everyday common or working class folks. If they purposely are trying to infer posh by using confusing sentences or words or terminology, well, that just does me head in.

Polite. I need to think about that one more

not2old Nov 19th 2013 4:23 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10998340)
We used to have a piano at home. We pronounced it pianno.

Depending on who she was talking to, my mum would change it to piah-no.

Sounds more like a perfume. Or should I say scent? :lol:

in any accent its a pee-an-o or pea-an-o

Sally Redux Nov 19th 2013 4:24 am

Re: How posh are you?
 
This is starting to feel like The Twilight Zone.

not2old Nov 19th 2013 4:26 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10998356)
This is starting to feel like The Twilight Zone.

what is?

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 4:26 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10998356)
This is starting to feel like The Twilight Zone.

Frightfully infra dig for one to reference a television program in polite conversation, is it not?

ultrarunner Nov 19th 2013 4:27 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10998340)
We used to have a piano at home. We pronounced it pianno.

Depending on who she was talking to, my mum would change it to piah-no.

Sounds more like a perfume. Or should I say scent? :lol:

So you are saying your mum was able to metamophorsize?

Actually, it's eau de toilet :D

bats Nov 19th 2013 4:27 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10998356)
This is starting to feel like The Twilight Zone.

Can you see anything on the wing?

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 4:29 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998365)
So you are saying your mum was able to metamophorsize?

Actually, it's eau de toilet :D

Eau di cologne, innit? The chav word for scent. Also used for phone, as in "Oi, china, you're wanted on the eau di". (Back when people shared telephones).

Sally Redux Nov 19th 2013 4:30 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 10998367)
Can you see anything on the wing?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-NcOoj9_TMI...r%2BScream.bmp

ultrarunner Nov 19th 2013 4:38 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10998369)
Eau di cologne, innit? The chav word for scent. Also used for phone, as in "Oi, china, you're wanted on the eau di". (Back when people shared telephones).

You forgot to include your usual bigoted comments in there...pick another race / group this time would ya? In the last 2 days, you've exhausted Blacks, and Asians

Am convinced that you actually think you are funny

dbd33 Nov 19th 2013 4:40 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by ultrarunner (Post 10998385)
In the last 2 days, you've exhausted Blacks, and Asians

I expect I've put some years on the Swiss and Irish too.

bats Nov 19th 2013 4:41 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10998374)

That's you , that is.

BristolUK Nov 19th 2013 4:48 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by not2old (Post 10998354)
in any accent its a pee-an-o or pea-an-o

I was referring to her trying to sound posh by giving it a soft 'ah' sound though. :)

Sally Redux Nov 19th 2013 4:49 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10998404)
I was referring to her trying to sound posh by giving it a soft 'ah' sound though. :)

I knew exactly what you meant - one of the stock of posh pronunciations/words.

BristolUK Nov 19th 2013 4:58 am

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 10998369)
Eau di cologne, innit? The chav word for scent.

A joke


Two not posh women walk up to a counter and decide to check out some of the free samples of perfume.

The first one looks at the second one and asks, "What's this perfume called? It smells familiar."

The second one replies, "It says here it's called Viens a Moi, whatever that means."

A kindly sales lady overhears the two talking, smiles, and tell them "Viens a Moi is French. It means 'Come to Me.'"

The first woman takes another big whiff and exclaims, "No, this doesn't smell like come to me. Bridgette, does this smell like come to you?"

ultrarunner Nov 19th 2013 3:10 pm

Re: How posh are you?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 10998017)
I wouldn't go as far as saying they sound lah-di-dah but you should hear some of the more elderly, better dressed 'ladies' around here speak. :D

I can just imagine, same as the well dressed ones in Montreal with the lovely French accent I imagine


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