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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 9:24 pm
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...a female Parliamentary Secretary?

I have to deal with one tomorrow and I don't know. Ministers are obvious. Madame Secretary sounds a bit American. Any advice?

Of course, she's a Harperist, so just spitting is one possibility.
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...a female Parliamentary Secretary?

I have to deal with one tomorrow and I don't know. Ministers are obvious. Madame Secretary sounds a bit American. Any advice?

Of course, she's a Harperist, so just spitting is one possibility.
Salutation: Dear Ms 'lastname'

On the envelope "The Hon 'first and last name' MP
Parliamentary Secretary for . . . ."


In person, oi **** face or more traditionally just Ms 'lastname'

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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 9:32 pm
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Salutation: Dear Ms . . .

On the envelope "The Hon . . . . , MP
Parliamentary Secretary for . . . ."
It's face to face though. But I'm still not wearing a tie. **** that.
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It's face to face though. But I'm still not wearing a tie. **** that.
As I said above, just; Ms 'whatever her last name is'.
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...a female Parliamentary Secretary?

I have to deal with one tomorrow and I don't know. Ministers are obvious. Madame Secretary sounds a bit American. Any advice?

Of course, she's a Harperist, so just spitting is one possibility.
Ms Surname or Mrs or Miss, depending on her preference. I've had no dealings with Canadian politicians, but in the UK parliamentary secretaries are the lowest of the low - third tier of minister. I gather they are a bit higher here, but it makes no difference. There's no reason to address a politician at that level by a special title.
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Ms Surname or Mrs or Miss, depending on her preference. I've had no dealings with Canadian politicians, but in the UK parliamentary secretaries are the lowest of the low - third tier of minister. I gather they are a bit higher here, but it makes no difference. There's no reason to address a politician at that level by a special title.
It's second tier here. I've dealt with Ministers and usually they like being addressed as Minister. In Canada Deputy Ministers are civil servants so bugger them, Parliamentary Secretaries are probably prima donnas even if they're not women.
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It's second tier here. I've dealt with Ministers and usually they like being addressed as Minister. In Canada Deputy Ministers are civil servants so bugger them, Parliamentary Secretaries are probably prima donnas even if they're not women.
Madame.
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...a female Parliamentary Secretary?

I have to deal with one tomorrow and I don't know. Ministers are obvious. Madame Secretary sounds a bit American. Any advice?

Of course, she's a Harperist, so just spitting is one possibility.
will Sir Humphry not go across very well?

or if you followed his (+ more recently Cameron's) style, then perhaps 'Dear lady' would ensure the meeting ended quickly

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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 9:54 pm
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will Sir Humphry not go across very well?

or if you followed his (+ more recently Cameron's) style, then perhaps 'Dear lady' would ensure the meeting ended quickly
Excellent plan.

I'm thinking of "Hi {firstname}, how's it going?"

What do you think?
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"Darling fascist bully boy..?"



I'll get Neil's coat that I've obviously stolen.
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It probably should be Madame if face to face, but I would probably just hedge my bets, shake her hand and say "I am very pleased to meet you" and not use any titles or honorifics at all just to avoid egg on my face

Of course the other option is to use the midlands vernacular and say "Eh up me'duck"
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Wot cheor canny lass.
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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 10:20 pm
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"Milk, no sugar, thanks love."
Perfect.

I think I'll just go with Madame (no french accent).

Avec du lait, pas du sucre s'il vous plait is a close second.
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