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Oink Mar 5th 2010 6:01 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by iaink (Post 8396896)
Just as well eh:rofl:
Yes, we had girls at our school. :thumbup:

iaink Mar 5th 2010 6:03 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8396918)
Yes, we had girls at our school. :thumbup:
Me too, in the 6th form anyway:p I'd left by then for a mixed school down south by then....

Souvy Mar 5th 2010 8:16 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8396890)
They didn't have the 11 plus when I was at school.
Nor me. I missed it by a year and ended up in a sodding comprehensive.

Novocastrian Mar 5th 2010 8:20 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8397343)
Nor me. I missed it by a year and ended up in a sodding comprehensive.
There's no need to wash the dirty laundry in public you know.

Steve_P Mar 5th 2010 9:31 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 8397343)
Nor me. I missed it by a year and ended up in a sodding comprehensive.
You mean they don't have the 11+ any more?

Just as well I was borderline wrote it a second time and failed.

Ended up in a GCE class in a Secondary Modern.

Left at age 15 never wrote any GCE's.

Oink Mar 5th 2010 9:43 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
I suspect the schooling experience of most people on here, was a direct result of Tony Crosland's quasi-religious quest to, in his own words, "destroy every ******g grammar school in England, Wales and Northern Ireland."

Novocastrian Mar 5th 2010 9:47 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8397595)
I suspect the schooling experience of most people on here, was a direct result of Tony Crosland's quasi-religious quest to, in his own words, "destroy every ******g grammar school in England, Wales and Northern Ireland."
Nonetheless hockey in England appears to be thriving.

bsmith Mar 5th 2010 9:57 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8397595)
I suspect the schooling experience of most people on here, was a direct result of Tony Crosland's quasi-religious quest to, in his own words, "destroy every ******g grammar school in England, Wales and Northern Ireland."
He's a bit before my time, but didn't he also have a lot to do with getting rid of the Polytechnics?

jimf Mar 5th 2010 9:59 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Steve_P (Post 8397566)
You mean they don't have the 11+ any more?

Just as well I was borderline wrote it a second time and failed.

Ended up in a GCE class in a Secondary Modern.

Left at age 15 never wrote any GCE's.
Its up to each local authority to decide if they have the 11+. Predictably those that do have the "best" and "worst" state schools in the country.

New labour would have liked to have gone for the grammars but settled for soft targets like fox hunting instead.

I went to a comprehensive which was streamed anyway so I never quite understood what the fuss was about. In fact it was in one of the authorities which set up a first/middle/high system to permanently erase any association with transfer at 11.

Novocastrian Mar 5th 2010 10:03 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 8397623)
He's a bit before my time, but didn't he also have a lot to do with getting rid of the Polytechnics?
Err, no. Rather with establishing them.

Maggie got rid of them by declaring that they were really universities after all so as to deflect EU criticism of the low university enrollment in britain.

bsmith Mar 5th 2010 10:10 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8397638)
Err, no. Rather with establishing them.

Maggie got rid of them by declaring that they were really universities after all so as to deflect EU criticism of the low university enrollment in britain.
...I could vaguely remember his name having something to do with Polytechnics, but that would make more sense.

Oink Mar 5th 2010 10:22 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by bsmith (Post 8397657)
...I could vaguely remember his name having something to do with Polytechnics, but that would make more sense.
He was a bit before my time also. :rofl:

As Novo pointed out, he was instrumental in setting up vocational higher education. As direct result of increasing working class demand for higher education, a loose following of the recommendations of the Robbins report, and Wilson's hard on for technology, polytechnics were seen as vital portals that could accommodate demand and help Britain out of its reliance on manufacturing old stuff. They also didn't really want loads of bright 'oiks' competing with thick posh kids for their classics courses.

jimf Mar 5th 2010 10:35 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 8397638)
Err, no. Rather with establishing them.

Maggie got rid of them by declaring that they were really universities after all so as to deflect EU criticism of the low university enrollment in britain.
Was in John Major's time wasn't it?

bsmith Mar 5th 2010 10:44 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 8397681)

.....polytechnics were seen as vital portals that could accommodate demand and help Britain out of its reliance on manufacturing old stuff. They also didn't really want loads of bright 'oiks' competing with thick posh kids for their classics courses.
:rofl:

Oink Mar 5th 2010 10:45 am
Re: Hockey 2010
 
Originally Posted by jimf (Post 8397714)
Was in John Major's time wasn't it?
While technically yes, the impetus was Thatcher's and Keith Joseph's and its spirit was embodied in the 1988 Education Reform Act.


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