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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by koalabear1
(Post 11043344)
How can it be hilarious or even vaguely funny that a teacher stopped a child from dressing up as Santa purely because he was a black child and not white?
I am disgusted and horrified by the teacher's behaviour; I would be equally shocked if a black teacher did it to a white child: Santa is a non-existent entity who is supposed to be jolly and bring presents to children across the world. Who cares what colour his skin is supposed to be? Or if he is disabled, or gay or whatever. I'm not preoccupied by skin colour, race etc etc but I feel strongly against discrimination. Be it against skin colour, gender, disability etc Anyone laughing at discrimination against a school child is pretty disappointing to see. I don't see colour/gender/etc either, and in my line of work, there is zero tolerance for that nonsence. I'll waste no time time writing someone up if such a thing was brought to my knowledge. There are people out there that just like to blame all that is wrong with this world, or their own demise on others, and minorities are usually an easy target for this i.e. "my life is horrible because immigrants are taking all the jobs", "Am not good academically because of the immigrants", "immigrants are taking all our women/men"...and on and on :blink: People that have things going for them in life, don't worry about all this crap. You think the owner of Chelsea FC (Russian Jew) or my beloved Arsenal FC, worry about the colour of the players bringing in the crowds earning them money? It's a business and all they care about is profit. Point here? Colour/gender/sexual orientation is irrelevant |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by Shard
(Post 11043394)
But that's not the point. The fact that the teacher chose to remark on the kid's suitability based on the kid's skin colour is the point.
I agree, and can't see how people are missing that as the point. When I was 5, I played the sun in the school play (we did that song that starts doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun etc) I am not yellow, do not emit great heat or light and am not round. Luckily, that idiotic teacher wasn't around to say I was unrealistic according to her image of the sun. |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by koalabear1
(Post 11043395)
Are you saying that because a lot (possibly most) people picture Santa as white, it is acceptable for a teacher to stop a black child from dressing up as Santa purely because he is black? <--- please note I have asked, not put words in your mouth :starsmile:
Saying Santa is certainly white comes across to me as a very "black and white" way of thinking (excuse the dreadful pun, but I couldn't think of a good alternative LOL) Hey, I am white myself, and indeed do picture Santa as an old white male, but it's fine by me if people who don't match those criteria want to dress up as him. Especially when they are children!!! But even when they're not. SANTA IS FICTIONAL Makes you wonder if something goes missing in that class, where the teacher will look first doesn't it? I think it's fair enough to say "the Black kid" |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
It's not just kids that have problems with plays as this video shows...
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11043403)
I am with you on this.....When prince Harry years ago decided to wear that Nazi outfit, am sure we all saw what happened there. For someone to say because "they can be sarcastic" at times, they would have said such a thing too...is indeed disappointing :thumbdown:
I don't see colour/gender/etc either, and in my line of work, there is zero tolerance for that nonsence. I'll waste no time time writing someone up if such a thing was brought to my knowledge. There are people out there that just like to blame all that is wrong with this world, or their own demise on others, and minorities are usually an easy target for this i.e. "my life is horrible because immigrants are taking all the jobs", "Am not good academically because of the immigrants", "immigrants are taking all our women/men"...and on and on :blink: People that have things going for them in life, don't worry about all this crap. You think the owner of Chelsea FC (Russian Jew) or my beloved Arsenal FC, worry about the colour of the players bringing in the crowds earning them money? It's a business and all they care about is profit. Point here? Colour/gender/sexual orientation is irrelevant |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by koalabear1
(Post 11043395)
Are you saying that because a lot (possibly most) people picture Santa as white, it is acceptable for a teacher to stop a black child from dressing up as Santa purely because he is black? <--- please note I have asked, not put words in your mouth :starsmile:
Saying Santa is certainly white comes across to me as a very "black and white" way of thinking (excuse the dreadful pun, but I couldn't think of a good alternative LOL) Hey, I am white myself, and indeed do picture Santa as an old white male, but it's fine by me if people who don't match those criteria want to dress up as him. Especially when they are children!!! But even when they're not. SANTA IS FICTIONAL |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by orly
(Post 11043477)
Was the kid actually stopped?
...... “Don’t you know Santa Claus is white?” the teacher reportedly asked. “Why are you wearing that?” Students at Cleveland High School in Rio Rancho, N.M., were allowed to dress as Santa, elves or reindeer. When ninth-grader Christopher Rougier arrived wearing a white beard and red Santa cap, the teacher ridiculed him..... ---------- Maybe not "stopped" as such but certainly made to feel he shouldn't wear a Santa outfit. I don't really think there is much difference because the boy couldn't have enjoyed it after that even if he wasn't literally told to change his clothes. |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
The teacher is bang out of order with racist views....period. Slice it whichever way you want
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11043964)
The teacher is bang out of order with racist views....period. Slice it whichever way you want
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 11043977)
Yes, I agree. There's no defending or justifying it and it saddens me that anyone has even tried.
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11043991)
Wow...I'll be damned, where did that come from? :blink:
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by koalabear1
(Post 11043845)
Maybe not "stopped"
Few too many thin skins around these days I think ;) I'm not religious but if I decided to dress up as the Pope and someone said "Don't you know the Pope is a Catholic? What are you doing wearing that?" the easy responses are "Yes I do" and "Because I wanted to". Not "OMFG YOU <insert whatever -ist you like> HOW DARE YOU TELL ME THE POPE IS A CATHOLIC!" Maybe it's just me...I'd find more important things to worry about. |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by orly
(Post 11045215)
So that's a no then?
Few too many thin skins around these days I think ;) I'm not religious but if I decided to dress up as the Pope and someone said "Don't you know the Pope is a Catholic? What are you doing wearing that?" the easy responses are "Yes I do" and "Because I wanted to". Not "OMFG YOU <insert whatever -ist you like> HOW DARE YOU TELL ME THE POPE IS A CATHOLIC!" Maybe it's just me...I'd find more important things to worry about. A black child was ridiculed by his teacher for dressing up as Santa, FOR NO OTHER REASON than because of the colour of his skin. That, never mind the thickness of said skin, is utterly unacceptable. Teachers may not make fun of their pupils based on skin colour. No grey areas, no vacillation, it's just absolutely, unequivocally, unacceptable. I'm not quite sure how you can consider that there's any room for doubt? |
Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by Oakvillian
(Post 11045233)
Perhaps because the colour of your skin does not make it obvious just by looking at you whether you're a catholic or not?
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Re: has the time come for a black santa ?
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11045235)
Eh? How many Catholics have red hands?
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