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Old Mar 24th 2009 | 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by marclouis
Was a reason given?
Not to me. But the link I posted up-thread might be relevant.
 
Old Mar 25th 2009 | 3:08 am
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook
1. Paragraphs and sentence structure. English may not be your first language, but you post is pretty hard to read the way it is.

2. Marclouis's reasons may be the the same as the ones the media report, but they can still be valid reasons for him. What part of his answer disrespects your request?

3. Do you think Arab media sources don't have an agenda too? I've heard most pro-West media organisations have been banned from Gaza becuse they won't broadcast exactly what HAMAS wants them to, which is to blame Israel for everything. If that's accurate, then it's just as much an agendea as you say our media has.

What are your experiences of living in a prison camp? Whilst I have some sympathy for the civilians living in those conditions, they elected HAMAS to power, an organisation whose stated goal is to destroy Israel. If the US elected a leader whose intention was to destroy Canada, do you think Canadians would stand by whilst the US launched missiles at us? Hell no! So why do you think Israel shouldn't do what they need to prevent further attacks. Just because HAMAS weapons aren't very accurate, doesn't mean they should be ignored. It only takes one lucky shot to wipe out a large group.


Yes, you are right. English is not my first language (not something that’s causing a big concern in my life though), but I’m glad that I can make my point come across cuz you wouldn’t have put such a defence if you didn’t understand what I was talking about. Although I could also say that I was responding to Marclouis’s message so where have YOU jumped from. But because I can appreciate that this is an internet-based forum and hence a more suitable place for one to express their polluted filthy thoughts (while remaining unknown behind the computer screen) which is not always possible when you are talking to people face to face. Also want to add here that Marclouis is a Jew which I found out from the PM he/she sent me last night after my post and said things that he/she couldn’t say openly.

lol @ your example.. “US electing a leader whose intention was to destroy Canada”. Just look at the height of your intellect and the comparisons you are trying to make here. However, I am pleased to inform you that:

• Thankfully I have never heard of Canada blockading US by the land or sea and preventing even the essential life dependant items like food and medicine from going in for years, and making its economy and the livelihood of its people severely dependant on Canada. And that complemented by the use of technological warfare every now and then (to which poor Palestinians have been becoming victims for decades now), trying to commit a systematic holocaust of the Americans.

• I also haven’t heard of Canada expanding its borders into US’s territory by grabbing its land through a phased programme and building new township schemes for Canadians.

• I am also not aware of Canada dividing the US into two different countries and cutting off all kind of links between a civilisation that has lived together for centuries in cultural and religious bonds.

• And you can tell me if you know of Canada kidnapping thousands of American citizens as ‘prisoners of war’ as young as 7 and keeping them detained for life.

If Canada did that, the people of the US would have no choice but to retaliate and elect someone who is willing to form a shield against Canada’s atrocities (and the war crimes) and is not scared to respond in the same manner.

You may ask why Israelis have to live in fear due to Hamas’s attacks, so the answer is that if you impose conditions like those on someone and then expect them to let you sleep in peace then you must be the true idiot in the world.

Don’t forget, Palestinians did try reconciliation with Israelis in the past but even then Israel’s attitude was nothing different than it is now, and was always asking for more and more land. But now Palestinians have realised that they will suffer no matter what they do. They are left with nothing to lose so if Israel has a little bit of sense, it should be careful while dealing with them as its strategy if isolating Palestine is firing back. May be Israel has its coming generations on mind who they are building a ‘new’ country for but Palestinians are doing exactly the same thing – not by invading Israel’s land but by protecting what they are left with.

As we are talking on an immigration related forum so here’s one last thing for all the readers. When I talk about the largest prison camp in the world. I really mean that it is a place that no incumbent can leave. Even the qualified Palestinians are not treated the same way as me and you, just because they live in Palestine. I see this is an absolute unfairness on part of the CIC as well. Medical check up is an essential step which every applicant has to undergo and look at the only option Palestinians have been given to get that done. Please click on the following link to see where the people of Palestine have to go to get their medicals done (if they are lucky enough to be allowed in):

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx


Anxiously waiting for some more ‘arguments’!
 
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Originally Posted by Edo
Yes, you are right. English is not my first language (not something that’s causing a big concern in my life though), but I’m glad that I can make my point come across cuz you wouldn’t have put such a defence if you didn’t understand what I was talking about. Although I could also say that I was responding to Marclouis’s message so where have YOU jumped from. But because I can appreciate that this is an internet-based forum and hence a more suitable place for one to express their polluted filthy thoughts (while remaining unknown behind the computer screen) which is not always possible when you are talking to people face to face. Also want to add here that Marclouis is a Jew which I found out from the PM he/she sent me last night after my post and said things that he/she couldn’t say openly.

Anxiously waiting for some more ‘arguments’!
Thank you. I have 'jumped' ion because I had questions that you've partially answered in my opinion. You've made some good points as well. I fail to see how we are expressing polluted thoughts as you mention.

There are always two sides to any story, and unless one lives there, I doubt many of us would know what it is like. If you have an issue with the way CIC deals with medicals for Palestinian residents then you'd have to take it up with them or the Canadian government. I wish you all the best with your application and hope everything goes smoothly for you.

Don’t forget, Palestinians did try reconciliation with Israelis in the past but even then Israel’s attitude was nothing different than it is now, and was always asking for more and more land.

When did they try re-conciliating? I'd like to see Israel and Palestinians living in peace, but both sides have to fix the problem together. As someone closely aware of the situation there, what would be your suggestions to both sides to help achieve this? I'd insist on both sides agreeing to a cease-fire would be a start.
 
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook;
When did they try re-conciliating? I'd like to see Israel and Palestinians living in peace, but both sides have to fix the problem together. As someone closely aware of the situation there, what would be your suggestions to both sides to help achieve this? I'd insist on both sides agreeing to a cease-fire would be a start.

Do a google on the Oslo Accords.
 
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian
Do a google on the Oslo Accords.
Thanks again, Novo.
 
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Originally Posted by CaptainHook
Thanks again, Novo.
Let me know when you have done your googleing and if you still have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them to help you understand 'both sides of the story'.
 
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As we are talking on an immigration related forum so here’s one last thing for all the readers. When I talk about the largest prison camp in the world. I really mean that it is a place that no incumbent can leave. Even the qualified Palestinians are not treated the same way as me and you, just because they live in Palestine. I see this is an absolute unfairness on part of the CIC as well. Medical check up is an essential step which every applicant has to undergo and look at the only option Palestinians have been given to get that done. Please click on the following link to see where the people of Palestine have to go to get their medicals done (if they are lucky enough to be allowed in):

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx


Gaza Strip
Sami Al-Agha
Gaza Diagnostic Centre,
Al-Wahda Street
 
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Originally Posted by Edo


As we are talking on an immigration related forum so here’s one last thing for all the readers. When I talk about the largest prison camp in the world. I really mean that it is a place that no incumbent can leave. Even the qualified Palestinians are not treated the same way as me and you, just because they live in Palestine. I see this is an absolute unfairness on part of the CIC as well. Medical check up is an essential step which every applicant has to undergo and look at the only option Palestinians have been given to get that done. Please click on the following link to see where the people of Palestine have to go to get their medicals done (if they are lucky enough to be allowed in):

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx


Gaza Strip
Sami Al-Agha
Gaza Diagnostic Centre,
Al-Wahda Street
As far as I see, they have to go to a medical centre in the Gaza Strip. How is that an issue for people living in Gaza?
 
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Wouldn't a Palestinian living in the Gaza Strip automatically qualify as a refugee and so not need a medical? Such a person would certainly have a well founded fear of persecution.
 
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Wouldn't a Palestinian living in the Gaza Strip automatically qualify as a refugee and so not need a medical? Such a person would certainly have a well founded fear of persecution.
And a fair chance of becoming GG.
 
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And a fair chance of becoming GG.
Haha.
 
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Haha.
You may laugh but it's not a ridiculous idea, is it?
 
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Originally Posted by Souvenir
You may laugh but it's not a ridiculous idea, is it?
It is if GG is George Galloway, otherwise, no.
 
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It is if GG is George Galloway, otherwise, no.
How odd is that? I'd been thinking of Governor General and not even noticed the initials.
 
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How odd is that? I'd been thinking of Governor General and not even noticed the initials.
Not odd at all. You could have said PM and meant Peter Mansbridge.
 


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